[Bioc-devel] parallel package generics
On 10/24/12 5:08 PM, "Herv? Pag?s" <hpages at fhcrc.org> wrote:
Hi,
With Florian use case, there seems to be a strong/immediate need for
dispatching on the cluster-like object passed as the 1st argument to
parLapply() and all the other functions in the parallel package that
belong to the "snow family" (14 functions in total, all documented in
?parallel::parLapply). So we've just added those 14 generics to
BiocGenerics 0.5.1. We're postponing the "multicore family" (i.e.
mclapply(), mcmapply(), and pvec()) for now.
Note that the 14 new generics dispatch at least on their 1st argument
('cl'), but also on their 2nd argument when this argument is 'x', 'X'
or 'seq' (expected to be a vector-like or matrix-like object). This
opens the door to defining methods that take advantage of the of the
implementation of particular vector-like or matrix-like objects.
Also note that, even if some of the 14 functions in the "snow family"
are simple convenience wrappers to other functions in the family, we've
made all of them generics. For example clusterEvalQ() is a simple
wrapper to clusterCall():
> clusterEvalQ
function (cl = NULL, expr)
clusterCall(cl, eval, substitute(expr), env = .GlobalEnv)
<environment: namespace:parallel>
And it seems (at least intuitively) that implementing a "clusterCall"
method for my cluster-like objects should be enough to have
clusterEvalQ() work out-of-the-box on those objects. But, sadly enough,
this is not the case:
setClass("FakeCluster", representation(nnodes="integer"))
setMethod("clusterCall", "FakeCluster",
function (cl=NULL, fun, ...) fun(...)
)
Then:
> mycluster <- new("FakeCluster", nnodes=10L)
> clusterCall(mycluster, print, 1:6)
[1] 1 2 3 4 5 6
> clusterEvalQ(mycluster, print(1:6))
Error in checkCluster(cl) : not a valid cluster
This is because the "clusterEvalQ" default method is calling
parallel::clusterCall() (which is *not* the generic), instead of
calling BiocGenerics::clusterCall() (which *is* the generic).
This would be avoided if clusterCall() was a generic defined in
the parallel package itself (or in a package that parallel depends
on). And this would of course be a better solution than having those
generics in BiocGenerics. Is someone willing to bring that case to
R-devel?
In the mean time I need to define a "clusterEvalQ" method:
setMethod("clusterEvalQ", "FakeCluster",
function (cl=NULL, expr)
clusterCall(cl, eval, substitute(expr), env=.GlobalEnv)
)
And then:
> clusterEvalQ(mycluster, print(1:6))
[1] 1 2 3 4 5 6 Finally note that this method I defined for my objects could be made the default "clusterEvalQ" method (i.e. the clusterEvalQ,ANY method) and we could put it in BiocGenerics. Or, since there is apparently nothing to win by having clusterEvalQ() being a generic in the first place, we could redefine clusterEvalQ() as an ordinary function in BiocGenerics. This function would be implemented *exactly* like parallel::clusterEvalQ() (and it would mask it), except that now it would call BiocGenerics::clusterCall() internally. What should we do?
We have the identical problem already when we try to use parallel mcmapply on a BioC List (i.e. GRangesList). Witness: The casual user (ehrm, myself at least) expects that since I can 'lapply' on a BioC GRangesList (or any other List) that I should be able to mclapply on it. Sadly the casual user is wrong, and gets an error. Why? Because parallel::mclapply(X... calls as.list on X. Which yields 'Error in as.list.default : no method for coercing this S4 class to a vector' But, you say, IRanges defines as.list for Lists, as can be demonstrated by calling as.list(myGRL) on a GRangesList. Here I yield the floor to someone who can explain why this is so, for I have not studied enough how namespaces/packages/symboltables/whatever work in R. Anyone? Regardless, one BAD workaround I found works is to snarf (tm) the source for mclapply, evaluate it in the global namespace, after prefixing all parallel internal functions with 'parallel:::'. AFter doing this, the modified mclapply works as one might expect. So, there is at least an issue regarding how method dispatch works across namespaces. Again I yield the floor, but, expect that it can be fixed. BUT, FURTHERMORE, MCLAPPLY SHOULD NOT COERCE X TO LIST ANYWAY Why? Because calling `as.list` incurs the overhead of (needlessly!?!) coercing this nice tight GRangesList into a base::list. There is NO REASON for it to be coercing X to a list at all. By my lights, mclapply only needs `length` and `seq_along` defined on X, which ARE ALREADY available to a GRangesList from Vector. Indeed, commenting out the X<-as.list(X) coercion in mclapply and, lo, it still works on a GRangesList as hoped, and on a 1000 element GRanges list takes ~18x less user time to mclapply(myGRL,length). (and even short just to use elementLengths, but that is not the point). In this case the solution appears to be to FIX the upstream package so that method dispatch works correctly (I expect that length and seq_along are only visible to my snarfed mclapply and would suffer from similar error without adressing the package issue). Indeed, similarly, in my proposed changed to parallel::pvec, I found a simple change that made it work with Vector as well as vector, since Vector implements `[` and `length`. I still think the solution to getting an SGE (et. al.) parallel back-end is to seek to improve the upstream package to make 'pluggable' for different parallel backends. I don't think I'm the right person to represent this to R-devel as obviously I am not schooled (yet!?!?) in the workings of S3/S4/signatures/methods/etc. Herve, I have a hunch that your 'In the mean time' solution is a workaround that has the potential to invite further confusion. Anyone, as a perhaps related issue, and as an opportunity to educate me, can you explain why untrace does NOT completely work on `lapply` (with BiocGenerics loaded). Viz: trace(lapply) untrace(lapply) IRanges(1,2) IRanges of length 1 trace: lapply(dots, methods:::.class1) .... --Malcolm
H. On 10/24/2012 09:07 AM, Cook, Malcolm wrote:
On 10/24/12 12:44 AM, "Michael Lawrence" <lawrence.michael at gene.com> wrote:
I agree that it would fruitful to have parLapply in BiocGenerics. It looks to be a flexible abstraction and its presence in the parallel package makes it ubiquitous. If it hasn't been done already, mclapply (and mcmapply) would be good candidates, as well. The fork-based parallelism is substantively different in terms of the API from the more general parallelism of parLapply. Someone was working on some more robust and convenient wrappers around mclapply. Did that ever see the light of day?
If you are referring to http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor/43660 in which I had offered some small changes to parallel::pvec https://gist.github.com/3757873/ and after which Martin had provided me with a route I have not (yet?) followed toward submitting a patch to R for consideration by R-devel / Simon Urbanek in http://grokbase.com/t/r/bioc-devel/129rbmxp5b/applying-over-granges-and-o th er-vectors-of-ranges#201209248dcn0tpwt7k7g9zsjr4dha6f1c
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Steve Lianoglou < mailinglist.honeypot at gmail.com**> wrote: In response to a question from yesterday, I pointed someone to the
ShortRead `srapply` function and I wondered to myself why it had to necessarily by "burried" in the ShortRead package (aside from it having a `sr` prefix).
I don't know that srapply necessarily 'got it right'...
One thing I like about srapply is its support for a reduce argument.
I had thought it might be a good idea to move that (or something like that) to BiocGenerics (unless implementations aren't allowed there) but also realized that it would add more dependencies where someone might not necessarily need them.
But, almost surely, a large majority of the people will be happy to do some form of ||-ization, so in my mind it's not such an onerous thing to add -- on the other hand, this large majority is probably enriched for people who are doing NGS analysis, in which case, keeping it in ShortRead can make some sense.
I remain confused about the need for putting any of this into BiocGenerics at all. It seems to me that properly construed parallization primitives ought to 'just work' with any object which supports indexing and length. I would appreciate hearing arguments to the contrary. Florian, in a similar vein, could we not seek to change parallel::makeCluster to be extensible to, say, support SGE cluster? THis seems like the 'right thing to do'. ??? Regardless, I think we have raised some considerations that might inform improvements to parallel, including points about error handling, reducing results, block-level parallization over List/Vector (in addition to vector), etc. I think perhaps having a google doc that we can collectively edit to contain the requirements we are trying to achieve might move us forward effectively. Would this help? Or perhaps a page under http://wiki.fhcrc.org/bioc/DeveloperPage/#discussions ???
Taking one step back, I recall some chatter last week (or two) about some better ||-ization "primitives" -- something about a pvec doo-dad, and there being ideas to wrap different types of ||-ization behind an easy to use interface (I think this was the convo), and then I took a further step back and often wonder why we just don't bite the bullet and take advantage of the `foreach` infrastructure that is already out there -- in which case, I could imagne a "doSGE" package that might handle the particulars of what Florain is referring to. You could then configure it externally via some `registerDoSGE(some.config.**object)` and just have the package code happily run it through `foreach(...) %dopar%` and be done w/ it. IMHO it is relevant. I have not looked for other abstractions, and this
one seems to work. Florian's objectives might be a good test case for adequacy.
The registerDoDah does seem to be a useful abstraction.
Is this not more-or-less the intention of parallel::setDefaultCluster? --Malcolm
I think there's a lot of work to do for some sort of coordinated parallelization that putting parLapply into BiocGenerics might encourage; not good things will happen when everyone in a call stack tries to parallelize independently. But I'm in favor of parLapply in BiocGenerics at least for the moment. Martin
... at least, I thought this is what was being talked about here (and
popped up a week or two ago) -- sorry if I completely missed the mark ... -steve On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Hahne, Florian <florian.hahne at novartis.com> wrote:
Hi Martin, I could define the generics in my own package, but that would mean that those will only be available there, or in the global environment assuming that I also export them, or in all additional packages that explicitly import them from my name space. Now there already are a whole bunch of packages around that all allow for parallelization via a cluster object. Obviously those all import the parLapply function from the parallel package. That means that I can't simply supply my own modified cluster object, because the code that calls parLapply will not know about the generic in my package, even if it is attached. Ideally parLapply would be a generic function already in the parallel package. Not sure who needs to be convinced in order for this to happen, but my gut feeling was that it could be easier to have the generic in BiocGenerics. Maybe I am missing something obvious here, but imo there is no way to overwrite parLapply globally for my own class unless the generic is imported by everyone who wants to make use of the special method. Florian -- On 10/23/12 2:20 PM, "Martin Morgan" <mtmorgan at fhcrc.org> wrote: On 10/17/2012 05:45 AM, Hahne, Florian wrote:
Hi all, I was wondering whether it would be possible to have proper generics
for
some of the functions in the parallel package, e.g. parLapply and
clusterCall. The reason I am asking is because I want to build an S4 class that essentially looks like an S3 cluster object but knows how to deal with the SGE. That way I can abstract away all the overhead regarding job submission, job status and reducing the results in the parLapply method of that class, and would be able to supply this new cluster object to all of my existing functions that can be processed in parallel using a cluster object as input. I have played around with the BatchJobs package as an abstraction layer to SGE and that work nicely. As a test case I have created the necessary generics myself in order to supply my own SGEcluster object to a function that normally deals with the "regular" parallel package S3 cluster objects and everything just worked out of the box, but obviously this fails once I am in a name space and my generic is not found anymore. Of course what we would really want is some proper abstraction of parallelization in R, but for now this seem to be at least a cheap compromise. Any thoughts on this?
Hi Florian -- we talked about this locally, but I guess we didn't actually send any email! Is there an obstacle to promoting these to generics in your own package? The usual motivation for inclusion in BiocGenerics has been to avoid conflicts between packages, but I'm not sure whether this is the case (yet)? This would also add a dependency fairly deep in the hierarchy. What do you think? Martin Florian
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