[Bioc-devel] Please bump version number when committing changes
Before we go and invent all kinds of stuff, is this a real problem that we need to spend resources thinking about? Dan's original post was about 2 people who check out devel from svn may see the same version number, but have different versions of the code. I acknowledge that this is theoretical possible. In the rare situation where this might matter, it would be better to compare svn revision numbers. And does this really happen with any frequency, I mean, the people who install packages from devel using svn must be very limited for a given package (perhaps I am different, but I only do it occasionally, and almost always for my own packages or if I depend on a package where I have identified an issue, the other author has fixed it and I need to test now and not tomorrow). With the current build policy, as I understand it, two people each installing not from svn, but from the published tarball throguh biocLite, is guaranteed to have the same code if they have the same version. The remaining issue is if one user installs from svn and one user from a tarball. But I think everyone who does svn just need to understand that this can happen. The affected users must be rather limited. One version of the problem, which I can see being confusing, is if an author pushes a bug fix to svn, but does not bump DESCRIPTION. Then I could see some unfortunate discussion between the developer and a user, but that really comes down to lack of understand of the build system for the developer. While I am sure it happens, the solution in my opinion is better education for the developers about the build system. Best, Kasper On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Michael Lawrence <lawrence.michael at gene.com> wrote:
As Pete and Ryan have pointed out, it seems that the version control system should somehow ease the burden of the developer here. Let's look at this from the github perspective, since it is likely to be the primary hosting mechanism for the foreseeable future. Just thinking out loud, if R could somehow dynamically ascertain the version of a package at build time, it could query the git checkout for a version. A simple algorithm that I have found effective in non-R projects is to consider git tags, which on github equate to releases. If the repository state is *at* the tag, then use the tag as the version. If the state is ahead of the most recent tag, then use the tag + latest commit hash. I wonder if R could support this by allowing a path to an R script in the version field? On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Vincent Carey <stvjc at channing.harvard.edu> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Peter Haverty <haverty.peter at gene.com> wrote:
Hi all, I respectfully disagree. One should certainly check in each discrete
unit
of work. These will often not result in something that is ready to be
used
by someone else. Bumping the version number constitutes a new release
and
carries the implicit promise that the package works again. This is why
Here I would respectfully disagree. Code in the devel branch carries no guarantees. I think we have been pretty loose with respect to package version number bumping in devel branch; the svn tracking can be used to deal with isolation of code for rollbacks. In this informal regime the package version number is a simple marker of package state. I think it has served us pretty well in past years but the developer community was smaller and had fairly homogeneous habits. Clearly there is room for more regimentation in this area but at the
moment
I agree with Dan that version numbers are cheap and should be bumped when new code is committed. And the recognition by all that a devel image may not work and may change fairly dramatically while in devel should be general; whether we need to alter that is open
to
question but I would think not.
continuous integration systems do a build when the version number
changes.
One should expect working software when installing a pre-build package
(the
tests passed, right?). Checking out from SVN is for developers of that package and nothing should be assumed about the current state of the
code.
To keep everyone happy, one could add a commit hook to our SVN setup
that
would add the SVN revision number to the version string. This would be
for
dev only and hopefully not sufficient to trigger a build. That's my two cents. Happy weekend all. Regards, Pete
____________________ Peter M. Haverty, Ph.D. Genentech, Inc. phaverty at gene.com On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Dan Tenenbaum <dtenenba at fhcrc.org>
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I am guilty of doing this today, but I have (I think) a good
reason.
I'm making a bunch of changes that are all related to each other,
but
are being implemented and tested in stages. I'd like to use svn to commit when I've made a set of changes that works, so I can roll
back
if I break something in the next step, but I'd like the users to see them all at once as a single version update. Perhaps others are doing something similar?
I understand the motivation but this still results in an ambiguous
state
if two different people check out your package from svn at different
times
today (before and after your changes). Version numbers are cheap, so if version 1.2.3 exists for a day
before
version 1.2.4 (which contains all the changes you want to push to
your
users) then that's ok, IMO. Including a version bump doesn't impact whether or not you can
rollback a
commit with svn. Dan
Stephanie On 9/4/14, 12:04 PM, Dan Tenenbaum wrote:
Hello, Looking through our svn logs, I see that there are many commits that are not accompanied by version bumps. All svn commits (or, if you are using the git-svn bridge, every group of commits included in a push) should include a version
bump
(that is, incrementing the "z" segment of the x.y.z version number). This practice is documented at http://www.bioconductor.org/developers/how-to/version-numbering/
.
Failure to bump the version has two consequences: 1) Your changes will not propagate to our package repository or
web
site, so users installing your package via biocLite() will not receive the latest changes unless you bump the version. 2) Users *can* always get the current files of your package using Subversion, but if you've made changes without bumping the
version
number, it can be difficult to troubleshoot problems. If two people are looking at what appears to be the same version of a package, but it's behaving differently, it can be really frustrating to realize that the packages actually differ (but not by version number). So if you're not already, please get in the habit of bumping the version number with each set of changes you commit. Let us know on bioc-devel if you have any questions about this. Thanks, Dan
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