[Bioc-devel] support site

1. When you click "new post" I think there should be some mention that if
you report an issue with a specific package, you should tag the post with
package name.

2. Is there a way to have default signature?

3. Is there some way to modify the layout.  I am getting confused by all
the colors and text and stuff.  I really want to see the title of the posts
much more clearly.

4. It was not immediately clear to me that the big "Messages" really are
private messages and that I should click on "LATEST" or "OPEN" (which
appear smaller than messages in my browser) to see the forum.  In fact,
there seems to be three buttons which are critical to the new user (like
me) and they are "LATEST", (perhaps) "OPEN" and "New Post".  Everything
else should be made smaller and less in your face, I think.

Best,
Kasper

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0. Overall, the new site is great. Some of the threads now turn into valuable little mini-blogs or discussion pages on a specialized topic.

1. I tend to agree with Kasper. The site layout looks a bit too cluttered to me, with all these boxes of votes, views and response counts in different colours, breathless reporting of recent locations, bold face subject headers and what not. Of course, these things are a matter of taste, although I am sure there also now lots of people who approach this topic scientifically and rationally.

2. I agree that ?LATEST? and ?OPEN? could be more prominent (and ?Messages? less so). It took me a great while to discover them (cf. point 1.)

Best wishes
	Wolfgang


Il giorno 26 Sep 2014, alle ore 20:35, Kasper Daniel Hansen <kasperdanielhansen at gmail.com> ha scritto:

1. When you click "new post" I think there should be some mention that if
you report an issue with a specific package, you should tag the post with
package name.

2. Is there a way to have default signature?

3. Is there some way to modify the layout.  I am getting confused by all
the colors and text and stuff.  I really want to see the title of the posts
much more clearly.

4. It was not immediately clear to me that the big "Messages" really are
private messages and that I should click on "LATEST" or "OPEN" (which
appear smaller than messages in my browser) to see the forum.  In fact,
there seems to be three buttons which are critical to the new user (like
me) and they are "LATEST", (perhaps) "OPEN" and "New Post".  Everything
else should be made smaller and less in your face, I think.

Best,
Kasper

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Thanks for the feedback. I'm a little puzzled by the 'Messages' being
somehow disproportionately large and wonder whether that's a
browser-specific thing. I also find things a little noisy.

Here's a cheap fix -- narrow your browser window. The site will go into
'mobile' mode, with nice clean presentation.

Martin


On 09/26/2014 01:24 PM, Wolfgang Huber wrote:

0. Overall, the new site is great. Some of the threads now turn into
valuable little mini-blogs or discussion pages on a specialized topic.

1. I tend to agree with Kasper. The site layout looks a bit too cluttered
to me, with all these boxes of votes, views and response counts in
different colours, breathless reporting of recent locations, bold face
subject headers and what not. Of course, these things are a matter of
taste, although I am sure there also now lots of people who approach this
topic scientifically and rationally.

2. I agree that ?LATEST? and ?OPEN? could be more prominent (and
?Messages? less so). It took me a great while to discover them (cf. point
1.)

Best wishes
        Wolfgang


Il giorno 26 Sep 2014, alle ore 20:35, Kasper Daniel Hansen <
kasperdanielhansen at gmail.com> ha scritto:

 1. When you click "new post" I think there should be some mention that if

you report an issue with a specific package, you should tag the post with
package name.

2. Is there a way to have default signature?

3. Is there some way to modify the layout.  I am getting confused by all
the colors and text and stuff.  I really want to see the title of the
posts
much more clearly.

4. It was not immediately clear to me that the big "Messages" really are
private messages and that I should click on "LATEST" or "OPEN" (which
appear smaller than messages in my browser) to see the forum.  In fact,
there seems to be three buttons which are critical to the new user (like
me) and they are "LATEST", (perhaps) "OPEN" and "New Post".  Everything
else should be made smaller and less in your face, I think.

Best,
Kasper

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--
Computational Biology / Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center
1100 Fairview Ave. N.
PO Box 19024 Seattle, WA 98109

Location: Arnold Building M1 B861
Phone: (206) 667-2793

No wonder I couldn't see all these things people were mentioning (I turn my
monitor sideways). One problem is that the "mobile" version does not offer
a button for up-voting, nor are any votes shown. That's sort of an
important feature, right?

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Martin Morgan <mtmorgan at fhcrc.org> wrote:

Thanks for the feedback. I'm a little puzzled by the 'Messages' being
somehow disproportionately large and wonder whether that's a
browser-specific thing. I also find things a little noisy.

Here's a cheap fix -- narrow your browser window. The site will go into
'mobile' mode, with nice clean presentation.

Martin


On 09/26/2014 01:24 PM, Wolfgang Huber wrote:

0. Overall, the new site is great. Some of the threads now turn into
valuable little mini-blogs or discussion pages on a specialized topic.

1. I tend to agree with Kasper. The site layout looks a bit too cluttered
to me, with all these boxes of votes, views and response counts in
different colours, breathless reporting of recent locations, bold face
subject headers and what not. Of course, these things are a matter of
taste, although I am sure there also now lots of people who approach this
topic scientifically and rationally.

2. I agree that "LATEST" and "OPEN" could be more prominent (and
"Messages" less so). It took me a great while to discover them (cf. point
1.)

Best wishes
        Wolfgang


Il giorno 26 Sep 2014, alle ore 20:35, Kasper Daniel Hansen <
kasperdanielhansen at gmail.com> ha scritto:

 1. When you click "new post" I think there should be some mention that if

you report an issue with a specific package, you should tag the post with
package name.

2. Is there a way to have default signature?

3. Is there some way to modify the layout.  I am getting confused by all
the colors and text and stuff.  I really want to see the title of the
posts
much more clearly.

4. It was not immediately clear to me that the big "Messages" really are
private messages and that I should click on "LATEST" or "OPEN" (which
appear smaller than messages in my browser) to see the forum.  In fact,
there seems to be three buttons which are critical to the new user (like
me) and they are "LATEST", (perhaps) "OPEN" and "New Post".  Everything
else should be made smaller and less in your face, I think.

Best,
Kasper

        [[alternative HTML version deleted]]

--
Computational Biology / Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center
1100 Fairview Ave. N.
PO Box 19024 Seattle, WA 98109

Location: Arnold Building M1 B861
Phone: (206) 667-2793

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About the usability/clutter/UI -- IMHO, I think the bioconductor
logo/banner is a bit too big and moving all of "the stuff" that's to
the right of it "so far to the right" might be contributing to some of
the disorientation (at least, I feel that it does to me). Perhaps
moving the logo all the way to the right side of the top level buttons
(and making it smaller) might be something to try.

@kasper: with regards to your "custom signature" question (question 2
in your post), do you mean like the signatures people put at the
bottom of an email?

IMHO, I don't think signatures actually have a place on these boards,
and it's better to just let your user page be the place where people
go to be informed of the things you'd put in your signature.

-steve

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Michael Lawrence
<lawrence.michael at gene.com> wrote:

No wonder I couldn't see all these things people were mentioning (I turn my
monitor sideways). One problem is that the "mobile" version does not offer
a button for up-voting, nor are any votes shown. That's sort of an
important feature, right?

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Martin Morgan <mtmorgan at fhcrc.org> wrote:

Thanks for the feedback. I'm a little puzzled by the 'Messages' being
somehow disproportionately large and wonder whether that's a
browser-specific thing. I also find things a little noisy.

Here's a cheap fix -- narrow your browser window. The site will go into
'mobile' mode, with nice clean presentation.

Martin


On 09/26/2014 01:24 PM, Wolfgang Huber wrote:

0. Overall, the new site is great. Some of the threads now turn into
valuable little mini-blogs or discussion pages on a specialized topic.

1. I tend to agree with Kasper. The site layout looks a bit too cluttered
to me, with all these boxes of votes, views and response counts in
different colours, breathless reporting of recent locations, bold face
subject headers and what not. Of course, these things are a matter of
taste, although I am sure there also now lots of people who approach this
topic scientifically and rationally.

2. I agree that "LATEST" and "OPEN" could be more prominent (and
"Messages" less so). It took me a great while to discover them (cf. point
1.)

Best wishes
        Wolfgang


Il giorno 26 Sep 2014, alle ore 20:35, Kasper Daniel Hansen <
kasperdanielhansen at gmail.com> ha scritto:

 1. When you click "new post" I think there should be some mention that if

you report an issue with a specific package, you should tag the post with
package name.

2. Is there a way to have default signature?

3. Is there some way to modify the layout.  I am getting confused by all
the colors and text and stuff.  I really want to see the title of the
posts
much more clearly.

4. It was not immediately clear to me that the big "Messages" really are
private messages and that I should click on "LATEST" or "OPEN" (which
appear smaller than messages in my browser) to see the forum.  In fact,
there seems to be three buttons which are critical to the new user (like
me) and they are "LATEST", (perhaps) "OPEN" and "New Post".  Everything
else should be made smaller and less in your face, I think.

Best,
Kasper

        [[alternative HTML version deleted]]

--
Computational Biology / Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center
1100 Fairview Ave. N.
PO Box 19024 Seattle, WA 98109

Location: Arnold Building M1 B861
Phone: (206) 667-2793

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Steve Lianoglou
Computational Biologist
Genentech