Hello all, There has been a request to reorganize the workflow page as workflows have grown past basic and advanced. http://bioconductor.org/help/workflows/ We wanted to check with the community what your thoughts were for categories. Thank you for your suggestions. Lori Shepherd Bioconductor Core Team Roswell Park Cancer Institute Department of Biostatistics & Bioinformatics Elm & Carlton Streets Buffalo, New York 14263 This email message may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for the delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of this email message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete this email message from your computer. Thank you.
[Bioc-devel] workflow page reorganization
10 messages · Laurent Gatto, Andrzej Oleś, Shepherd, Lori +3 more
On 15 December 2017 12:33, Shepherd, Lori wrote:
Hello all, There has been a request to reorganize the workflow page as workflows have grown past basic and advanced. http://bioconductor.org/help/workflows/ We wanted to check with the community what your thoughts were for categories.
Could biocViews be used for this? For example assign workflows biocViews of the packages they use (either all biocViews or those that occur several times). biocViews aren't perfect, put this would allow automation and would provide consistency with the packages categorisation. Best wishes, Laurent
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My proposed categories reflect my vested interests, but here goes:
- Gene expression:
- rnaseqGene
- RNAseq123
- ExpressionNormalizationWorkflow
- RnaSeqGeneEdgeRQL
- Epigenomics: (not quite sure what to call this)
- chipseqDB
- methylationArrayAnalysis
- generegulation
- Single cell:
- simpleSingleCell
- cytofWorkflow (or in proteomics?)
- Proteomics:
- proteomics
- highthroughputassays
- cytofWorkflow (see above)
- Variant calling:
- Variant calling
- Nucleotide tallies
- eQTL
- Resource querying: (needs a better name)
- recountWorkflow
- TCGAWorkflow
- Other:
- everything else.
I haven't looked at the Basic workflows, which are probably basic enough
to be lumped together in that existing section.
-A
On 15/12/17 12:33, Shepherd, Lori wrote:
Hello all, There has been a request to reorganize the workflow page as workflows have grown past basic and advanced. http://bioconductor.org/help/workflows/ We wanted to check with the community what your thoughts were for categories. Thank you for your suggestions. Lori Shepherd Bioconductor Core Team Roswell Park Cancer Institute Department of Biostatistics & Bioinformatics Elm & Carlton Streets Buffalo, New York 14263 This email message may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for the delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of this email message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete this email message from your computer. Thank you. [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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Hi, Motivated by discussions with Aaron I've already started to group the workflows on the page (but this change didn't propagate to the website yet). Some common topics I was able to identify so far include: - Beginner's Worklows authored originally by the core team giving a quite broad overview of the BioC infrastructure - Annotations - RNA Sequencing - Single-cell Workflows - Genomic Variants - Domain Specific The domain-specific workflows currently includes the "advanced" ones which focus on a particualar topic otherwise not covered by other workflows. Cheers, Andrzej On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Shepherd, Lori <
Lori.Shepherd at roswellpark.org> wrote:
Hello all, There has been a request to reorganize the workflow page as workflows have grown past basic and advanced. http://bioconductor.org/help/workflows/ We wanted to check with the community what your thoughts were for categories. Thank you for your suggestions. Lori Shepherd Bioconductor Core Team Roswell Park Cancer Institute Department of Biostatistics & Bioinformatics Elm & Carlton Streets Buffalo, New York 14263 This email message may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for the delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of this email message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete this email message from your computer. Thank you. [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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Hi Laurent, thanks, we might consider this in the future. To get us going, for the moment we will probably just rearrange the website manually. On the technical note: even though workflows are now fully fledged packages, two documents linked from https://bioconductor.org/help/workflows are just static PDFs. As they are around for some time now, I'm not sure how up-to-date they are. Cheers, Andrzej
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Laurent Gatto <lg390 at cam.ac.uk> wrote:
On 15 December 2017 12:33, Shepherd, Lori wrote:
Hello all, There has been a request to reorganize the workflow page as workflows have grown past basic and advanced. http://bioconductor.org/help/workflows/ We wanted to check with the community what your thoughts were for categories.
Could biocViews be used for this? For example assign workflows biocViews of the packages they use (either all biocViews or those that occur several times). biocViews aren't perfect, put this would allow automation and would provide consistency with the packages categorisation. Best wishes, Laurent
Thank you for your suggestions. Lori Shepherd Bioconductor Core Team Roswell Park Cancer Institute Department of Biostatistics & Bioinformatics Elm & Carlton Streets Buffalo, New York 14263 This email message may contain legally privileged and/or confidential
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Hi Aaron, thank you for taking the lead. I've merged your suggested categories with my preliminary arrangement (which just went online). I've also included an index at the beginning of the page. Any refinements are of course welcome, e.g. via PR to https://github.com/Bioconductor/bioconductor.org Cheers, Andrzej
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Aaron Lun <alun at wehi.edu.au> wrote:
My proposed categories reflect my vested interests, but here goes:
- Gene expression:
- rnaseqGene
- RNAseq123
- ExpressionNormalizationWorkflow
- RnaSeqGeneEdgeRQL
- Epigenomics: (not quite sure what to call this)
- chipseqDB
- methylationArrayAnalysis
- generegulation
- Single cell:
- simpleSingleCell
- cytofWorkflow (or in proteomics?)
- Proteomics:
- proteomics
- highthroughputassays
- cytofWorkflow (see above)
- Variant calling:
- Variant calling
- Nucleotide tallies
- eQTL
- Resource querying: (needs a better name)
- recountWorkflow
- TCGAWorkflow
- Other:
- everything else.
I haven't looked at the Basic workflows, which are probably basic enough
to be lumped together in that existing section.
-A
On 15/12/17 12:33, Shepherd, Lori wrote:
Hello all, There has been a request to reorganize the workflow page as workflows
have grown past basic and advanced.
http://bioconductor.org/help/workflows/ We wanted to check with the community what your thoughts were for
categories.
Thank you for your suggestions. Lori Shepherd Bioconductor Core Team Roswell Park Cancer Institute Department of Biostatistics & Bioinformatics Elm & Carlton Streets Buffalo, New York 14263 This email message may contain legally privileged and/or confidential
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Thanks for this! Lori Shepherd Bioconductor Core Team Roswell Park Cancer Institute Department of Biostatistics & Bioinformatics Elm & Carlton Streets Buffalo, New York 14263
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Hi Aaron, thank you for taking the lead. I've merged your suggested categories with my preliminary arrangement (which just went online). I've also included an index at the beginning of the page. Any refinements are of course welcome, e.g. via PR to https://github.com/Bioconductor/bioconductor.org Cheers, Andrzej On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Aaron Lun <alun at wehi.edu.au> wrote: > My proposed categories reflect my vested interests, but here goes: > > - Gene expression: > - rnaseqGene > - RNAseq123 > - ExpressionNormalizationWorkflow > - RnaSeqGeneEdgeRQL > > - Epigenomics: (not quite sure what to call this) > - chipseqDB > - methylationArrayAnalysis > - generegulation > > - Single cell: > - simpleSingleCell > - cytofWorkflow (or in proteomics?) > > - Proteomics: > - proteomics > - highthroughputassays > - cytofWorkflow (see above) > > - Variant calling: > - Variant calling > - Nucleotide tallies > - eQTL > > - Resource querying: (needs a better name) > - recountWorkflow > - TCGAWorkflow > > - Other: > - everything else. > > I haven't looked at the Basic workflows, which are probably basic enough > to be lumped together in that existing section. > > -A > > On 15/12/17 12:33, Shepherd, Lori wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > > > There has been a request to reorganize the workflow page as workflows > have grown past basic and advanced. > > > > > > http://bioconductor.org/help/workflows/ > > > > > > We wanted to check with the community what your thoughts were for > categories. > > > > Thank you for your suggestions. > > > > > > > > Lori Shepherd > > > > Bioconductor Core Team > > > > Roswell Park Cancer Institute > > > > Department of Biostatistics & Bioinformatics > > > > Elm & Carlton Streets > > > > Buffalo, New York 14263 > > > > > > This email message may contain legally privileged and/or confidential > information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or > agent responsible for the delivery of this message to the intended > recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, > distribution, or use of this email message is prohibited. If you have > received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by > e-mail and delete this email message from your computer. Thank you. > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bioc-devel at r-project.org mailing list > > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioc-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > Bioc-devel at r-project.org mailing list > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioc-devel > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] _______________________________________________ Bioc-devel at r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioc-devel This email message may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for the delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of this email message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete this email message from your computer. Thank you.
Thanks Andrzej. And yes, I just put in a PR; I hope itemized sublists for a particular workflow (i.e., mine) aren't too ambitious. I'm thinking about whether "Epigenetics" is the right section heading. For greatest generality, you could call it "Genome regulation", which bundles all genomic binding/accessibility/methylation stuff together. I was also pondering whether cytof belongs in Proteomics or Single-cell, given the equivalent FACS workflow lives in Proteomics and the nature of the data are fundamentally different from single cell genomics datasets. But I suppose that's none of my business, I'll leave it to Lukas & co. It would be nice to see an image analysis workflow up there! -A
On 15/12/17 15:27, Andrzej Ole? wrote:
Hi Aaron, thank you for taking the lead. I've merged your suggested categories with my preliminary arrangement (which just went online). I've also included an index at the beginning of the page. Any refinements are of course welcome, e.g. via PR to https://github.com/Bioconductor/bioconductor.org Cheers, Andrzej On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Aaron Lun <alun at wehi.edu.au <mailto:alun at wehi.edu.au>> wrote: My proposed categories reflect my vested interests, but here goes: - Gene expression: ? ? - rnaseqGene ? ? - RNAseq123 ? ? - ExpressionNormalizationWorkflow ? ? - RnaSeqGeneEdgeRQL - Epigenomics: (not quite sure what to call this) ? ? - chipseqDB ? ? - methylationArrayAnalysis ? ? - generegulation - Single cell: ? ? - simpleSingleCell ? ? - cytofWorkflow (or in proteomics?) - Proteomics: ? ? - proteomics ? ? - highthroughputassays ? ? - cytofWorkflow (see above) - Variant calling: ? ? - Variant calling ? ? - Nucleotide tallies ? ? - eQTL - Resource querying: (needs a better name) ? ? - recountWorkflow ? ? - TCGAWorkflow - Other: ? ? - everything else. I haven't looked at the Basic workflows, which are probably basic enough to be lumped together in that existing section. -A On 15/12/17 12:33, Shepherd, Lori wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>
> There has been a request to reorganize the workflow page as
workflows have grown past basic and advanced.
>
>
> We wanted to check with the community what your thoughts were for
categories.
>
> Thank you for your suggestions.
>
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> Lori Shepherd
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> Bioconductor Core Team
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> Roswell Park Cancer Institute
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> Department of Biostatistics & Bioinformatics
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> Elm & Carlton Streets
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> Buffalo, New York 14263
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This already looks much improved, thanks Andrzej and Aaron. I think workflows are where it's at, and this page is probably underappreciated by Bioconductor users and the outside community. My wishlist for the workflows page, which may exceed what is available for the current effort: 1) It should say at the top which version of R/Bioconductor the workflows are being built on. 2) On the main page, for each workflow: * A thumbnail (could live in a pre-specified location in the package) * Author list (autopopulated from DESCRIPTION) * Version * Link to the (most current) F1000Research articles for those which are published (new field in DESCRIPTION?) * Some kind of CI "buttony" thing, to indicate to users that these are live documents * Key Bioc/R packages used in this worfklow (could this also be an additional DESCRIPTION field?) 3) I think it would be good to encourage the more stubby workflow descriptions to add more text, and maybe to decrease the very words ones, so that it's more consistent. Wow, that's pretty obsessive of me, but I think it would make the page look more professional. 4) Text somewhere with a link to the support site and how to ask for help on workflows (e.g. vignette(), ?functionName) 5) An advertisement somewhere for submitting a workflow, link to more detailed doc elsewhere
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Thank you all for the efforts on this! I agree with Mike that there's a lot of yet untapped potential in the workflows, for all levels of BioC users: for beginners, to make their first steps, for more experienced users, to learn new stuff. Mike's points 1-5 are great, I second them. And then some polite pushback on categorization... I think for a volume of one-two dozen workflows, browsing based on short descriptions (Mike's point 3) will often be preferable. And if the volume gets larger, I noted that "search" rather than "manually curated hierarchical menu trees" drives many successful websites (Amazon, Google) and there's probably a lesson in there. Best wishes Wolfgang 15.12.17 16:55, Michael Love scripsit:
This already looks much improved, thanks Andrzej and Aaron. I think workflows are where it's at, and this page is probably underappreciated by Bioconductor users and the outside community. My wishlist for the workflows page, which may exceed what is available for the current effort: 1) It should say at the top which version of R/Bioconductor the workflows are being built on. 2) On the main page, for each workflow: * A thumbnail (could live in a pre-specified location in the package) * Author list (autopopulated from DESCRIPTION) * Version * Link to the (most current) F1000Research articles for those which are published (new field in DESCRIPTION?) * Some kind of CI "buttony" thing, to indicate to users that these are live documents * Key Bioc/R packages used in this worfklow (could this also be an additional DESCRIPTION field?) 3) I think it would be good to encourage the more stubby workflow descriptions to add more text, and maybe to decrease the very words ones, so that it's more consistent. Wow, that's pretty obsessive of me, but I think it would make the page look more professional. 4) Text somewhere with a link to the support site and how to ask for help on workflows (e.g. vignette(), ?functionName) 5) An advertisement somewhere for submitting a workflow, link to more detailed doc elsewhere
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