Hi, I am a developer working on the bioconductor package gemma.R <https://bioconductor.org/packages/3.16/data/experiment/html/gemma.R.html>. On publication we have used the ExperimentData biocview to classify the package but we believe this was not the correct decision since the package's function is to access a database much like geoquery. I was wondering if it was safe to change the classification on our end by changing biocviews directly or if it would cause issues with the bioconductor infrastructure? Cheers, Ogan
[Bioc-devel] Package Classifications via BiocViews
6 messages · Shepherd, Lori, Hervé Pagès, Burak Ogan Mancarci
Changing the biocviews is not sufficient. There needs to be work on our end to change the manifest the package belongs to and to clear the build products from the data repositories so it is only found in one location. Are you sure you want to proceed with switching? It is not trivial on our end. Lori Shepherd - Kern Bioconductor Core Team Roswell Park Comprehensive Cancer Center Department of Biostatistics & Bioinformatics Elm & Carlton Streets Buffalo, New York 14263
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Subject: [Bioc-devel] Package Classifications via BiocViews
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Subject: [Bioc-devel] Package Classifications via BiocViews
Hi, I am a developer working on the bioconductor package gemma.R <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1wIQY41Mq8CRYqLq1luoPm43XSj6Icl27w6udr35y-BxPHgEP6B5pApAAeBdBeWsydixV0CSwBVIVl2C7mJykPI3ESX7qtp-xJOSvJAu4T1yzHr3CWRc7s6LY_WtIcrnzfyw3MI7z0oqv1hzA1x5oRN1kFZ-KF6tttbi86SwIwZhYADSMaK1xXJxmlZ0Oe8CtJ6jKBrSjnn6fnDONMFHadvspGk8Gxc7N15gdoVzcbADiR0q1V7O973S1e0Fu6CFPAayqcCBKIOs4_xfp6nm1HNupK82P0Bawyi3Bc4Fu2vcDQKLcgU-gyiBMkego3WW4/https%3A%2F%2Fbioconductor.org%2Fpackages%2F3.16%2Fdata%2Fexperiment%2Fhtml%2Fgemma.R.html>. On publication we have used the ExperimentData biocview to classify the package but we believe this was not the correct decision since the package's function is to access a database much like geoquery. I was wondering if it was safe to change the classification on our end by changing biocviews directly or if it would cause issues with the bioconductor infrastructure? Cheers, Ogan [[alternative HTML version deleted]] _______________________________________________ Bioc-devel at r-project.org mailing list https://secure-web.cisco.com/1T5fXNWrq0wVkhsBGGZem_PrfqZL4JVbxk93lJB7cvCmSzN0HQXSMpdqsrdB-M-09zasav4vj733ww5BnQASs1jdsouSO0jb4woXH7k0uksmqx3BhiCXJy0Mwx7Lm3Y-CZdMcl-wRht_iwp5HSLm92GQ0X9FlCbqajgbnLRL79fA6nWZAIFiGim4shu4ZdLRn1HpNCM-UApMLDl1YReeF_UVn6EWI1QphpP--G8sq4j0nYkOefHddWPyHlTNwCg-f2aZd94WzVyCs9rzrmaF54N8FmJ-RTYeRHbVsmsWez047xQCe1sEkuv5HUjkC8Wqy/https%3A%2F%2Fstat.ethz.ch%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fbioc-devel This email message may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or the employee or agent responsible for the delivery of this message to the intended recipient(s), you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of this email message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete this email message from your computer. Thank you.
Apologies for the inconvenience. The change isn't essential on our end and can be avoided or delayed if you think the ExperimentData label can be applied to a package responsible for accessing data from a database rather than storing static data. We were only worried about misleading use of biocviews terms. Cheers, Ogan On Wed., Sep. 28, 2022, 14:26 Kern, Lori, <Lori.Shepherd at roswellpark.org> wrote:
Changing the biocviews is not sufficient. There needs to be work on our end to change the manifest the package belongs to and to clear the build products from the data repositories so it is only found in one location. Are you sure you want to proceed with switching? It is not trivial on our end. Lori Shepherd - Kern Bioconductor Core Team Roswell Park Comprehensive Cancer Center Department of Biostatistics & Bioinformatics Elm & Carlton Streets Buffalo, New York 14263 ------------------------------ *From:* Bioc-devel <bioc-devel-bounces at r-project.org> on behalf of Burak Ogan Mancarci <ogan.mancarcii at gmail.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:17 AM *To:* bioc-devel at r-project.org <bioc-devel at r-project.org> *Subject:* [Bioc-devel] Package Classifications via BiocViews Hi, I am a developer working on the bioconductor package gemma.R < https://secure-web.cisco.com/1wIQY41Mq8CRYqLq1luoPm43XSj6Icl27w6udr35y-BxPHgEP6B5pApAAeBdBeWsydixV0CSwBVIVl2C7mJykPI3ESX7qtp-xJOSvJAu4T1yzHr3CWRc7s6LY_WtIcrnzfyw3MI7z0oqv1hzA1x5oRN1kFZ-KF6tttbi86SwIwZhYADSMaK1xXJxmlZ0Oe8CtJ6jKBrSjnn6fnDONMFHadvspGk8Gxc7N15gdoVzcbADiR0q1V7O973S1e0Fu6CFPAayqcCBKIOs4_xfp6nm1HNupK82P0Bawyi3Bc4Fu2vcDQKLcgU-gyiBMkego3WW4/https%3A%2F%2Fbioconductor.org%2Fpackages%2F3.16%2Fdata%2Fexperiment%2Fhtml%2Fgemma.R.html
.
On publication we have used the ExperimentData biocview to classify the
package but we believe this was not the correct decision since the
package's function is to access a database much like geoquery. I was
wondering if it was safe to change the classification on our end by
changing biocviews directly or if it would cause issues with the
bioconductor infrastructure?
Cheers,
Ogan
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Hi Burak, Based on your description of what the package does, this is really a software package in nature, so is in the wrong repository. We need to fix this. In 4 steps: 1. Please remove the ExperimentData term from the biocViews field as well as any term that belongs to the ExperimentData ontology, that is: DiseaseModel, OrganismData, Homo_sapiens_Data, Mus_musculus_Data, Rattus_norvegicus_Data, TechnologyData, MicroarrayData, SequencingData, and RNASeqData. Yep, most of your terms will go away. 2. Add the Software term, in first position. You're welcome to add new terms if you want, from the following vocabulary: https://github.com/Bioconductor/biocViews/blob/master/inst/dot/biocViewsVocab.dot. Please make sure to pick terms that belong to the Software ontology (i.e. are offsprings of the Software term). 3. Bump the package version (only the z part in x.y.z), and push your changes to git.bioconductor.org. 4. Let us know when you're done. We'll make the required adjustments on our side. Thanks, H.
On 28/09/2022 09:37, Burak Ogan Mancarci wrote:
Apologies for the inconvenience. The change isn't essential on our end and can be avoided or delayed if you think the ExperimentData label can be applied to a package responsible for accessing data from a database rather than storing static data. We were only worried about misleading use of biocviews terms. Cheers, Ogan On Wed., Sep. 28, 2022, 14:26 Kern, Lori, <Lori.Shepherd at roswellpark.org> wrote:
Changing the biocviews is not sufficient. There needs to be work on our end to change the manifest the package belongs to and to clear the build products from the data repositories so it is only found in one location. Are you sure you want to proceed with switching? It is not trivial on our end. Lori Shepherd - Kern Bioconductor Core Team Roswell Park Comprehensive Cancer Center Department of Biostatistics & Bioinformatics Elm & Carlton Streets Buffalo, New York 14263 ------------------------------ *From:* Bioc-devel <bioc-devel-bounces at r-project.org> on behalf of Burak Ogan Mancarci <ogan.mancarcii at gmail.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:17 AM *To:* bioc-devel at r-project.org <bioc-devel at r-project.org> *Subject:* [Bioc-devel] Package Classifications via BiocViews Hi, I am a developer working on the bioconductor package gemma.R < https://secure-web.cisco.com/1wIQY41Mq8CRYqLq1luoPm43XSj6Icl27w6udr35y-BxPHgEP6B5pApAAeBdBeWsydixV0CSwBVIVl2C7mJykPI3ESX7qtp-xJOSvJAu4T1yzHr3CWRc7s6LY_WtIcrnzfyw3MI7z0oqv1hzA1x5oRN1kFZ-KF6tttbi86SwIwZhYADSMaK1xXJxmlZ0Oe8CtJ6jKBrSjnn6fnDONMFHadvspGk8Gxc7N15gdoVzcbADiR0q1V7O973S1e0Fu6CFPAayqcCBKIOs4_xfp6nm1HNupK82P0Bawyi3Bc4Fu2vcDQKLcgU-gyiBMkego3WW4/https%3A%2F%2Fbioconductor.org%2Fpackages%2F3.16%2Fdata%2Fexperiment%2Fhtml%2Fgemma.R.html
.
On publication we have used the ExperimentData biocview to classify the
package but we believe this was not the correct decision since the
package's function is to access a database much like geoquery. I was
wondering if it was safe to change the classification on our end by
changing biocviews directly or if it would cause issues with the
bioconductor infrastructure?
Cheers,
Ogan
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On 28/09/2022 16:03, Herv? Pag?s wrote:
Hi Burak, Based on your description of what the package does, this is really a software package in nature, so is in the wrong repository. We need to fix this. In 4 steps: 1. Please remove the ExperimentData term from the biocViews field as well as any term that belongs to the ExperimentData ontology, that is: DiseaseModel, OrganismData, Homo_sapiens_Data, Mus_musculus_Data, Rattus_norvegicus_Data, TechnologyData, MicroarrayData, SequencingData, and RNASeqData. Yep, most of your terms will go away.
After taking a second look I realize that **all** your current terms are from the ExperimentData ontology, instead of being a mix of Software and ExperimentData terms as I thought initially. So they should all be removed.
2. Add the Software term, in first position. You're welcome to add new terms if you want, from the following vocabulary: https://github.com/Bioconductor/biocViews/blob/master/inst/dot/biocViewsVocab.dot. Please make sure to pick terms that belong to the Software ontology (i.e. are offsprings of the Software term).
You should definitely add new terms from the Software ontology! Thanks, H.
3. Bump the package version (only the z part in x.y.z), and push your changes to git.bioconductor.org. 4. Let us know when you're done. We'll make the required adjustments on our side. Thanks, H. On 28/09/2022 09:37, Burak Ogan Mancarci wrote:
Apologies for the inconvenience. The change isn't essential on our end and can be avoided or delayed if you think the ExperimentData label can be applied to a package responsible for accessing data from a database rather than storing static data. We were only worried about misleading use of biocviews terms. Cheers, Ogan On Wed., Sep. 28, 2022, 14:26 Kern, Lori, <Lori.Shepherd at roswellpark.org> wrote:
Changing the biocviews is not sufficient.? There needs to be work on our end to change the manifest the package belongs to and to clear the build products from the data repositories so it is only found in one location. Are you sure you want to proceed with switching?? It is not trivial on our end. Lori Shepherd - Kern Bioconductor Core Team Roswell Park Comprehensive Cancer Center Department of Biostatistics & Bioinformatics Elm & Carlton Streets Buffalo, New York 14263 ------------------------------ *From:* Bioc-devel <bioc-devel-bounces at r-project.org> on behalf of Burak Ogan Mancarci <ogan.mancarcii at gmail.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:17 AM *To:* bioc-devel at r-project.org <bioc-devel at r-project.org> *Subject:* [Bioc-devel] Package Classifications via BiocViews Hi, I am a developer working on the bioconductor package gemma.R < https://secure-web.cisco.com/1wIQY41Mq8CRYqLq1luoPm43XSj6Icl27w6udr35y-BxPHgEP6B5pApAAeBdBeWsydixV0CSwBVIVl2C7mJykPI3ESX7qtp-xJOSvJAu4T1yzHr3CWRc7s6LY_WtIcrnzfyw3MI7z0oqv1hzA1x5oRN1kFZ-KF6tttbi86SwIwZhYADSMaK1xXJxmlZ0Oe8CtJ6jKBrSjnn6fnDONMFHadvspGk8Gxc7N15gdoVzcbADiR0q1V7O973S1e0Fu6CFPAayqcCBKIOs4_xfp6nm1HNupK82P0Bawyi3Bc4Fu2vcDQKLcgU-gyiBMkego3WW4/https%3A%2F%2Fbioconductor.org%2Fpackages%2F3.16%2Fdata%2Fexperiment%2Fhtml%2Fgemma.R.html
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On publication we have used the ExperimentData biocview to classify the package but we believe this was not the correct decision since the package's function is to access a database much like geoquery. I was wondering if it was safe to change the classification on our end by changing biocviews directly or if it would cause issues with the bioconductor infrastructure? Cheers, Ogan ???????? [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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I have switched out the terms. Thanks a lot and sorry about the mess. Cheers, Ogan On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 4:36 PM Herv? Pag?s <hpages.on.github at gmail.com> wrote:
On 28/09/2022 16:03, Herv? Pag?s wrote:
Hi Burak, Based on your description of what the package does, this is really a software package in nature, so is in the wrong repository. We need to fix this. In 4 steps: 1. Please remove the ExperimentData term from the biocViews field as well as any term that belongs to the ExperimentData ontology, that is: DiseaseModel, OrganismData, Homo_sapiens_Data, Mus_musculus_Data, Rattus_norvegicus_Data, TechnologyData, MicroarrayData, SequencingData, and RNASeqData. Yep, most of your terms will go away.
After taking a second look I realize that **all** your current terms are from the ExperimentData ontology, instead of being a mix of Software and ExperimentData terms as I thought initially. So they should all be removed.
2. Add the Software term, in first position. You're welcome to add new terms if you want, from the following vocabulary:
Please make sure to pick terms that belong to the Software ontology (i.e. are offsprings of the Software term).
You should definitely add new terms from the Software ontology! Thanks, H.
3. Bump the package version (only the z part in x.y.z), and push your changes to git.bioconductor.org. 4. Let us know when you're done. We'll make the required adjustments on our side. Thanks, H. On 28/09/2022 09:37, Burak Ogan Mancarci wrote:
Apologies for the inconvenience. The change isn't essential on our end and can be avoided or delayed if you think the ExperimentData label can be applied to a package responsible for accessing data from a database rather than storing static data. We were only worried about misleading use of biocviews terms. Cheers, Ogan On Wed., Sep. 28, 2022, 14:26 Kern, Lori, <Lori.Shepherd at roswellpark.org> wrote:
Changing the biocviews is not sufficient. There needs to be work on our end to change the manifest the package belongs to and to clear the build products from the data repositories so it is only found in one location. Are you sure you want to proceed with switching? It is not trivial on our end. Lori Shepherd - Kern Bioconductor Core Team Roswell Park Comprehensive Cancer Center Department of Biostatistics & Bioinformatics Elm & Carlton Streets Buffalo, New York 14263 ------------------------------ *From:* Bioc-devel <bioc-devel-bounces at r-project.org> on behalf of Burak Ogan Mancarci <ogan.mancarcii at gmail.com> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2022 9:17 AM *To:* bioc-devel at r-project.org <bioc-devel at r-project.org> *Subject:* [Bioc-devel] Package Classifications via BiocViews Hi, I am a developer working on the bioconductor package gemma.R <
.
On publication we have used the ExperimentData biocview to classify the
package but we believe this was not the correct decision since the
package's function is to access a database much like geoquery. I was
wondering if it was safe to change the classification on our end by
changing biocviews directly or if it would cause issues with the
bioconductor infrastructure?
Cheers,
Ogan
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