R 3.0, Rtools3.0,l Windows7 64-bit, and permission agony
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Duncan Murdoch
<murdoch.duncan at gmail.com> wrote:
On 13-04-20 12:30 PM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Duncan Murdoch <murdoch.duncan at gmail.com> wrote:
On 13-04-20 11:09 AM, Gabor Grothendieck wrote:
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Hadley Wickham <h.wickham at gmail.com> wrote:
Just curious: how often do you use the Windows find command? We have put instructions in place for people to run the install process with a renamed Rtools find command (which I think is the only conflict). The issue is that more users who want to use the command line commands are familiar with the Unix variant (which came first, by the way) than the Windows one, so renaming the Rtools one would cause trouble for more people.
Its not just find - its also sort. And really R has no business clobbering built in Windows commands. This is just wrong and really causes anyone who does any significant amount of Windows batch programming (or uses batch programs of any complexity) endless problems.
Which is presumably why Rtools doesn't modify the path by default. Better solutions (e.g. Rstudio and devtools) temporarily set the path on when you're calling R CMD *.
I am well aware of the various kludges to address this including my own batchfiles ( http://batchfiles.googlecode.com ) which handles this by temporarily changing the path as well; however, the real problem is that Rtools does not play nice with Windows and that needs to be addressed directly.
It has been. You ignored it. Duncan Murdoch
If some change to address this has been made that would be great but there is no mention of it on the Rtools page in the change history section (the only documented change relates to the png/tiff/jpeg libraries), there was no announcement that I saw and Rtools\bin still contains find and sort so what specifically is the change?
It's not a change to Rtools, it's a change is to the build system in R: it allows you to rename sort or find in your own copy of Rtools, and R will use whatever you specify. You were informed of this when I did it in 2007, and I've mentioned it when the topic comes up here, most recently in the message quoted above. That's a long time ago, so I don't remember if you tried it then, but I've never heard a complaint from anyone else that it doesn't work.
I certainly was not aware of this and posts in this thread suggest that others were not aware of it either. Perhaps you could provide some details and links. I am sure many people would be interested. -- Statistics & Software Consulting GKX Group, GKX Associates Inc. tel: 1-877-GKX-GROUP email: ggrothendieck at gmail.com