bug in sum() on integer vector
Hi Duncan,
On 11-12-10 05:27 AM, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
On 11-12-09 4:41 PM, Herv? Pag?s wrote:
Hi Duncan, On 11-12-09 11:39 AM, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
On 09/12/2011 1:40 PM, Herv? Pag?s wrote:
Hi, x<- c(rep(1800000003L, 10000000), -rep(1200000002L, 15000000)) This is correct:
sum(as.double(x))
[1] 0 This is not:
sum(x)
[1] 4996000 Returning NA (with a warning) would also be acceptable for the latter. That would make it consistent with cumsum(x):
cumsum(x)[length(x)]
[1] NA Warning message: Integer overflow in 'cumsum'; use 'cumsum(as.numeric(.))'
This is a 64 bit problem; in 32 bits things work out properly. I'd guess in 64 bit arithmetic we or the run-time are doing something to simulate 32 bit arithmetic (since integers are 32 bits), but it looks as though we're not quite getting it right.
It doesn't work properly for me on Leopard (32-bit mode):
x<- c(rep(1800000003L, 10000000), -rep(1200000002L, 15000000)) sum(as.double(x))
[1] 0
sum(x)
[1] 4996000
sessionInfo()
R version 2.14.0 RC (2011-10-27 r57452) Platform: i386-apple-darwin9.8.0/i386 (32-bit) locale: [1] C attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base It looks like the problem is that isum() (in src/main/summary.c) uses a 'double' internally to do the sum, whereas rsum() and csum() use a 'long double'.
A double has 53 bits to store the mantissa, so any 32 bit integer can be stored exactly.
Note that isum() seems to be assuming that NA_INTEGER and NA_LOGICAL will always be the same (probably fine) and that TRUE values in the input vector are always represented as a 1 (not so sure about this one). A more fundamental question: is switching back and forth between 'int' and 'double' (or 'long double') the right thing to do for doing "safe" arithmetic on integers?
If you have enough terms in the sum that an intermediate value exceeds 53 bits in length, then you'll get the wrong answer, because the intermediate sum can't be stored exactly. That happens in your example. On the 32 bit platform I tested (Windows 32 bit), intermediate values are stored in registers with 64 bit precision, which is probably why Windows 32 bit gets it right, but various other platforms don't. On your fundamental question: I think the answer is that R is doing the right thing. R doesn't think of an integer as a particular representation, it thinks of it as a number. So if you ask for the sum of those numbers, R should return its best approximation to that sum, and it does.
It does, really? Seems like returning 0 would be a better approximation ;-) And with the argument that "R doesn't think of an integer as a particular representation" then there is no reason why sum(x) would get it wrong and sum(as.double(x)) would get it right. Also why bother having an integer type in R? Seriously, I completely disagree with your view (hopefully it's only yours, and not an R "feature") that it's ok for integer arithmetic to return an approximation. It should always return the correct value or fail. This is one of the reasons why programmers use integers and not floating point numbers (memory usage being another one). Integers are used for indexing elements in an array or for shifting pointers at the C-level. The idea that integer arithmetic can be approximate is scary. Cheers, H.
A different approach would be to do the sum in 32 bit registers and detect 32 bit overflow in intermediate results. But that's a very hardware-oriented approach, rather than a mathematical approach. Duncan Murdoch
Thanks! H.
Duncan Murdoch
Thanks! H.
sessionInfo()
R version 2.14.0 (2011-10-31) Platform: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu (64-bit) locale: [1] LC_CTYPE=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=C [3] LC_TIME=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_CA.UTF-8 [5] LC_MONETARY=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=en_CA.UTF-8 [7] LC_PAPER=C LC_NAME=C [9] LC_ADDRESS=C LC_TELEPHONE=C [11] LC_MEASUREMENT=en_CA.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=C attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base
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