Message-ID: <79597dc9-db1b-cd7b-2fb2-0c236db03f48@statistik.tu-dortmund.de>
Date: 2017-06-28T16:45:59Z
From: Uwe Ligges
Subject: Windows iconv() "failure" in certain locales
In-Reply-To: <22866.31638.949797.725782@stat.math.ethz.ch>
On 27.06.2017 17:36, Martin Maechler wrote:
> This is a continuation of the R-devel thread with subject
> "suggestion to fix packageDescription() for Windows users" :
>
> As I said there, a patch should rather address the underlying
> problem in packageDescription rather than a kludgy workaround
> patch for citation().
> (For that same reason, Ben Marwick proposed to fix
> packageDescription() rather than the symptom seen in citation().)
>
> It's not hard to see that the problem is that iconv() in
> Windows does not always succeed to translate from "UTF-8" to the
> "current locale", in the case mentioned there.
>
> I'm giving some easier reproducible examples: no need to install
> half of tidyverse just to get citation("readr") :
>
>> x <- c("Ekstr\xf8m", "J\xf6reskog", "bi\xdfchen Z\xfcrcher")
>> Encoding(x1) <- "latin1"
>> xU <- iconv(x1, "latin1", "UTF-8")
>
>> Sys.setlocale("LC_CTYPE", "Chinese")
> [1] "Chinese (Simplified)_People's Republic of China.936"
>>
>> iconv(x1, "latin1", "") # NA NA NA
> [1] NA NA NA
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "") # NA NA NA
> [1] NA NA NA
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "//TRANSLIT")
> [1] "Ekstr?m" "J?reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
Interesting, I get chinese characters here.
Beside the comments from Duncan Murdoch:
iconv(x1, "latin1", "", sub="?")
etc. would be an alternative in case some characters really cannot be
converted into the target encoding and should perhaps be considered for
the time after Duncan commits the fix for the underlying porblem.
Best,
Uwe
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "", sub = "byte")
> [1] "Ekstr<c3><b8>m" "J<c3><b6>reskog" "bi<c3><9f>chen Z??rcher"
>
>
>> Sys.setlocale("LC_CTYPE", "Arabic")
> [1] "Arabic_Saudi Arabia.1256"
>> iconv(x1, "latin1", "") # NA NA NA
> [1] NA NA NA
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "") # NA NA NA
> [1] NA NA NA
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "//TRANSLIT")
> [1] "Ekstr\370m" "J\366reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "", sub="byte")
> [1] "Ekstr<c3><b8>m" "J<c3><b6>reskog" "bi<c3><9f>chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "", sub="?")
> [1] "Ekstr??m" "J??reskog" "bi??chen Z?rcher"
>
> Etc... . As the above is typically garbled between e-mail
> transfer agents, I append both the iconv-Windows.R R script and
> the corresponding iconv-Windows.Rout R transcript to this
> e-mail (using MIME type text/plain (easy using emacs for mail..)),
> and they contain a bit more than the above.
>
> Note that the above shows that using 'sub = *' and using
> "//TRANSLIT" in case of a previous NA result helps quite a bit,
> in the sense that it gives much more information to see
> "J?reskog" instead NA.
>
> I'm considering updating packageDescription() to try these in
> case it first returns NA. This would make the citation() hack
> unnecessary.
>
> Martin
>
>
> iconv-Windows.R
>
>
> #### iconv() behavior depending on Locales LC_CTYPE in Windows
> #### ======= ==============================
> ###
> ### In a *shell* in Windows (emacs), after doing R.home() in R, use that to do something like
> ### c:/PROGRA~1/R/R-devel/bin/R CMD BATCH iconv-Windows.R
> ### ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= === ===== =============== ==> producing iconv-Windows.Rout
> ###
> sessionInfo() ## does not matter so much
> ## -- should be Windows to exhibit the problems
>
> ## From help(iconv) 's example : Using "latin1" European language letters:
> x1 <- c("Ekstr\xf8m", "J\xf6reskog", "bi\xdfchen Z\xfcrcher")
> Encoding(x1) <- "latin1"
> xU <- iconv(x1, "latin1", "UTF-8")
>
>
> ## 2 locales that do not work well : ---------------------------------
> Sys.setlocale("LC_CTYPE", "Chinese")
>
> iconv(x1, "latin1", "") # NA NA NA
> iconv(x1, "latin1", "//TRANSLIT") # perfect for Chinese
> iconv(x1, "latin1", "", sub = "byte")
> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "") # NA NA NA
> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "//TRANSLIT")
> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "", sub = "byte")
> ##--
> Sys.setlocale("LC_CTYPE", "Arabic")
> iconv(x1, "latin1", "") # NA NA NA
> iconv(x1, "latin1", "//TRANSLIT") # not bad, but not perfect
> iconv(x1, "latin1", "", sub="byte")
> iconv(x1, "latin1", "", sub="?")
> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "") # NA NA NA
> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "//TRANSLIT")
> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "", sub="byte")
> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "", sub="?")
>
> ## 2 locales that work well for these examples (no wonder) -----------
>
> Sys.setlocale("LC_CTYPE", "German_Switzerland")
> iconv(x1, "latin1", "")
> iconv(x1, "latin1", "//TRANSLIT")
> iconv(x1, "latin1", "", sub="?")
> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "")
> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "//TRANSLIT")
> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "", sub="?")
> ##--
> Sys.setlocale("LC_CTYPE", "English")
> iconv(x1, "latin1", "")
> iconv(x1, "latin1", "//TRANSLIT")
> iconv(x1, "latin1", "", sub="?")
> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "")
> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "//TRANSLIT")
> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "", sub="?")
>
>
> iconv-Windows.Rout
>
>
>
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>> #### iconv() behavior depending on Locales LC_CTYPE in Windows
>> #### ======= ==============================
>> ###
>> ### In a *shell* in Windows (emacs), after doing R.home() in R, use that to do something like
>> ### c:/PROGRA~1/R/R-devel/bin/R CMD BATCH iconv-Windows.R
>> ### ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= === ===== =============== ==> producing iconv-Windows.Rout
>> ###
>> sessionInfo() ## does not matter so much
> R Under development (unstable) (2017-06-25 r72854)
> Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64 (64-bit)
> Running under: Windows Server 2008 R2 x64 (build 7601) Service Pack 1
>
> Matrix products: default
>
> locale:
> [1] LC_COLLATE=English_United States.1252
> [2] LC_CTYPE=English_United States.1252
> [3] LC_MONETARY=English_United States.1252
> [4] LC_NUMERIC=C
> [5] LC_TIME=English_United States.1252
>
> attached base packages:
> [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base
>
> loaded via a namespace (and not attached):
> [1] compiler_3.5.0
>> ## -- should be Windows to exhibit the problems
>>
>> ## From help(iconv) 's example : Using "latin1" European language letters:
>> x1 <- c("Ekstr\xf8m", "J\xf6reskog", "bi\xdfchen Z\xfcrcher")
>> Encoding(x1) <- "latin1"
>> xU <- iconv(x1, "latin1", "UTF-8")
>>
>>
>> ## 2 locales that do not work well : ---------------------------------
>> Sys.setlocale("LC_CTYPE", "Chinese")
> [1] "Chinese (Simplified)_People's Republic of China.936"
>>
>> iconv(x1, "latin1", "") # NA NA NA
> [1] NA NA NA
>> iconv(x1, "latin1", "//TRANSLIT") # perfect for Chinese
> [1] "Ekstr?m" "J?reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(x1, "latin1", "", sub = "byte")
> [1] "Ekstr<f8>m" "J<f6>reskog" "bi<df>chen Z??rcher"
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "") # NA NA NA
> [1] NA NA NA
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "//TRANSLIT")
> [1] "Ekstr?m" "J?reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "", sub = "byte")
> [1] "Ekstr<c3><b8>m" "J<c3><b6>reskog" "bi<c3><9f>chen Z??rcher"
>> ##--
>> Sys.setlocale("LC_CTYPE", "Arabic")
> [1] "Arabic_Saudi Arabia.1256"
>> iconv(x1, "latin1", "") # NA NA NA
> [1] NA NA NA
>> iconv(x1, "latin1", "//TRANSLIT") # not bad, but not perfect
> [1] "Ekstr\370m" "J\366reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(x1, "latin1", "", sub="byte")
> [1] "Ekstr<f8>m" "J<f6>reskog" "bi<df>chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(x1, "latin1", "", sub="?")
> [1] "Ekstr?m" "J?reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "") # NA NA NA
> [1] NA NA NA
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "//TRANSLIT")
> [1] "Ekstr\370m" "J\366reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "", sub="byte")
> [1] "Ekstr<c3><b8>m" "J<c3><b6>reskog" "bi<c3><9f>chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "", sub="?")
> [1] "Ekstr??m" "J??reskog" "bi??chen Z?rcher"
>>
>> ## 2 locales that work well for these examples (no wonder) -----------
>>
>> Sys.setlocale("LC_CTYPE", "German_Switzerland")
> [1] "German_Switzerland.1252"
>> iconv(x1, "latin1", "")
> [1] "Ekstr?m" "J?reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(x1, "latin1", "//TRANSLIT")
> [1] "Ekstr?m" "J?reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(x1, "latin1", "", sub="?")
> [1] "Ekstr?m" "J?reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "")
> [1] "Ekstr?m" "J?reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "//TRANSLIT")
> [1] "Ekstr?m" "J?reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "", sub="?")
> [1] "Ekstr?m" "J?reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> ##--
>> Sys.setlocale("LC_CTYPE", "English")
> [1] "English_United States.1252"
>> iconv(x1, "latin1", "")
> [1] "Ekstr?m" "J?reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(x1, "latin1", "//TRANSLIT")
> [1] "Ekstr?m" "J?reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(x1, "latin1", "", sub="?")
> [1] "Ekstr?m" "J?reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "")
> [1] "Ekstr?m" "J?reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "//TRANSLIT")
> [1] "Ekstr?m" "J?reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>> iconv(xU, "UTF-8", "", sub="?")
> [1] "Ekstr?m" "J?reskog" "bi?chen Z?rcher"
>>
>> proc.time()
> user system elapsed
> 0.18 0.14 0.98
>
>
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