R 4.0.2 64-bit Windows hangs
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 7:54 PM Tomas Kalibera <tomas.kalibera at gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/25/20 6:14 PM, Tomas Kalibera wrote:
On 8/22/20 9:33 PM, Jeroen Ooms wrote:
On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 9:10 PM Tomas Kalibera <tomas.kalibera at gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/22/20 8:26 PM, Tomas Kalibera wrote:
On 8/22/20 7:58 PM, Jeroen Ooms wrote:
On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 8:39 AM Tomas Kalibera <tomas.kalibera at gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/21/20 11:45 PM, m19tdn+9alxwj7d2bmk--- via R-devel wrote:
Ah yes, this is related. I reported v2010 below, but it looks like I was updated to this Insider Build overnight without my knowledge, and conflated it with the new installation R v4 this morning. I will continue to look into the issue with the methods Tomas mentioned.
It is interesting that a rare 5 years old problem would re-appear on current Insider builds. Which build of Windows are you running exactly? I've seen another report about a crash on 20190.1000. It'd be nice to know if it is present also in newer builds, i.e. in 20197.
I installed the latest 20197 build in a vm, and I can indeed reproduce this problem. What seems to be happening is that R triggers an infinite recursion in Windows unwinding mechanism, and eventually dies with a stack overflow. Attached a backtrace of the initial 100 frames of the main thread (the pattern in the top ~30 frames continues forever). The microsoft blog doesn't mention anything related to exception handling has changed in recent versions: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-insider/at-home/active-dev-branch
Thanks, unfortunately that does not ring any bells (except below), I can't guess from this what is the underlying cause of the problem. There may be something wrong in how we use setjmp/longjmp or how setjmp/longjmp works on Windows. It reminds me of a problem I've been debugging few days ago, when longjump implementation segfaults on Windows 10 (recent but not Insider build) probably soon after unwinding the stack, but only with GCC 10 / MinGW 7 and only in one of the no-segfault tests, and only with -03 (not -O2, not with with -O3 -fno-split-loops). The problem was sensitive to these optimization options interestingly on the call site of long jump (do_abs), even when it was not an immediate caller of the longjump. I've not tracked this down yet, it will require looking at the assembly level, and I was suspecting a compiler error causing the compiler to generate code that messes with the stack or registers in a way that impacts the upcoming jump. But now as we have this other problem with setjmp/logjmp, the compiler may not be the top suspect anymore. I may not be able to work on this in the next few days or a week, so if anyone gets there first, please let me know what you find out.
Btw could you please try out if the UCRT build of R crashes as well in the Insider Windows build ?
Yes, it hangs in exactly the same way, except that the backtrace shows ucrtbase!.intrinsic_setjmpex () from C:\WINDOWS\System32\ucrtbase.dll Instead of msvcrt!_setjmpex (as expected of course).
Thanks. I found what is causing the problem I observed with GCC10/stock Windows 10, I expect this is the same one as in the Insider build. I will investigate further, Tomas
It seems the problem is between MinGW-W64 and Windows, and really it causes both the reported crashes in an Insider build (I tested in 20197) and in my GCC 10 builds in a single "no-segfault" test. setjmp is implemented using Windows call _setjmpex, which has a second argument argument, which is set differently by MinGW based on GCC version. When I set this argument as MinGW-W64 did on early versions of GCC, mingw_getsp(), it fixes/hides the problems on my systems. Perl5 uses a similar workaround, but otherwise there is no solid base (documentation, specification, etc) I am aware of for this change, so this may take some more time to be properly fixed. Still, if anyone experiments with this workaround and finds a problem, please let me know. In particular, I am curious whether it works on earlier versions of Windows (at least with check-all, including recommended packages).
FYI, the problem has disappeared on Windows dev built 20201 (released yesterday), so it may have been a Windows bug. That is not to say there is no bug on the R/mingw side, but at least the current and past releases of R are working again on the latest versions of Windows, which is a big relief.