sending signals to embedded R
On Sat, 5 May 2007, Luke Tierney wrote:
On Sat, 5 May 2007, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:
On Fri, 4 May 2007, Luke Tierney wrote:
On Fri, 4 May 2007, Deepayan Sarkar wrote:
On 5/4/07, Prof Brian Ripley <ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
On Fri, 4 May 2007, Deepayan Sarkar wrote:
one thing I haven't been able to figure out from R-exts is how to interrupt a calculation running inside an embedded R. C code inside R calls R_CheckUserInterrupt() intermittently to check for interrupts, but how does my GUI tell R that the user wants it interrupted?
Well, the intention is that you send an interrupt, which hardly needs to be in the manual.
I didn't mean to imply that it does. I'm just new to signals and things that should be obvious aren't. Basically kill(2) seems to be the right thing to use, but I wasn't sure what the PID needs to be. Turns out sending SIGINT to my GUI from a shell interrupts R, so raise(SIGINT) should be enough.
The tricky bit here is figuring out who does the sending. It you have a separate thread/process for the GUI and R then that is fine (though may raise other issues). If it is a single thread then you need your event processing to get an occasional look in to recognise the user action that triggers an interrupt. The Windows version handles this by having R_CheckUserInterrupt() do a limited amount of event processing (you need to be careful in GUI events have R actions associated with them). I believe the Mac version is similar though it has been a
I was assuming that Deepayan's GUI (which seems to need Qt4, BTW, so I was unable to compile it) worked via the R-Unix eventloop, in which case it gets some CPU time from time to time.
I was assuming that as well. But my recollection is that on unix the event loop is only run from within the console reader. On Windows (and Mac OS X I believe) some event processing also happens in R_CheckUserInterrupt(); on Windows there is also some more in some blocking library calls, like socket reads as I recall. But unless things have changed since I last looked none of that happens on unix.
gnomeGUI has an interrupt menu item with action 'onintr', which may well be what Deepayan is looking for: the only reason that package still exists is to provide example code. (Not that it was ever properly integrated with the R event loop.)
It does have some sort of interrupt device (I can't recall if it is a menu item or a butto and I can't seem to build a working gnomeGUI to check). And I believe if you try to use that item (or button?) during a long-running computation you can't because the events won't be looked at until R gets back to a console read, at which point the events will be processed and you jump to the top level (where you already are).
That belief is correct (it has a menu item and a button), but my final parenthetical remark was that gnomeGUI was not wedged into the event loop.
If the issue is what happens when the user Ctrl-C's in the GUI console, that depends on what the GUI toolkit does with keyboard input: if it generates a SIGINT this should just work, but otherwise the keyboard handler needs to be told to call onintr() one way or another.
Again only if the GUI gets a chance to look at the keyboard input, which I don't think we currently give it.
We builtin the ability for a front-end to register handlers with the R event loop, including a polling handler (and that is how we can have a Tcl/Tk front end). That postdates gnomeGUI, which runs the Gtk event-loop, not R's. So my assumption 'worked via the R-Unix eventloop' was that a handler (probably a polling handler) had been wedged in the eventloop. That was in contrast to running under a separate thread.
The UI provided by a shell running in a separate process may not have a 'G' but it does have its advantages :-)
Or a separate thread, as Rterm.exe does. Really RGui should also run in a separate thread, but when Guido did so, it did not work under Windows 95: if we ever give up support for pre-NT Windows I will take a look again at this. I guess my underlying point is that rather than run the GUI from R_ProcessEvents (as RGui is), on Unix you can run it from an eventloop handler. Brian
Best, luke
while since I looked at that. I don't believe the unix version of R_CheckUserInterrupt() does not provide hooks for installing such checking (we have talked about this off an on but I don't believe anything happened -- could be wrong there though). If Qt allows this one option may be to have events on your nterrupt widget managed by a small thread that does nothing other than send a signal to the main thread if the widget is clicked. Best, luke
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