Dear all, We seem to have found a "strange" behaviour in the hyperbolic tangent function tanh on Windows. When running tanh(356 + 0i) the Windows result is NaN + 0.i while on Mac the result is 1 + 0i. It doesn't seem to be a floating point error because on Mac it is possible to run arbitrarily large numbers (say tanh( 999999677873648767519238192348124812341234182374817239847812738481234871823+0i) ) and still get 1 + 0i as result. This seems to be related to the imaginary part as tanh(356) returns 1 in both Windows and Mac. We have obtained those results in: 1) Mac with El Capitan v 10.11.6 *processor: 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5* - 2) Mac with Sierra v 10.12.3 *processor: 3.2 GHz Intel Core i5* - 3) Windows 10 Home v 1607 *processor: Intel Core m3-SY30 CPU@ 0.90 GHz 1.51 GHz* - 4) Windows 7 Home Premium Service Pack 1 *processor: Intel Core i5-2410M CPU @2.30 GHz 2.30GHz.* ?In all cases we are using R version 3.3.3 (64 bits)? - *Does anybody have a clue on why is this happening?* - ?PS: We have previously posted this issue in Stack Overflow ( http://stackoverflow.com/questions/42847414/hyperbolic-tangent-in-r-throws-nan-in-windows-but-not-in-mac). A comment suggests it is related to a glibc bug. ? ?Thanks,? Rod
Hyperbolic tangent different results on Windows and Mac
5 messages · Rodrigo Zepeda, Martin Maechler, Uwe Ligges +1 more
3 days later
Rodrigo Zepeda <rzepeda17 at gmail.com>
on Fri, 17 Mar 2017 12:56:06 -0600 writes:
> Dear all,
> We seem to have found a "strange" behaviour in the hyperbolic tangent
> function tanh on Windows.
> When running tanh(356 + 0i) the Windows result is NaN + 0.i while on Mac
> the result is 1 + 0i. It doesn't seem to be a floating point error because
> on Mac it is possible to run arbitrarily large numbers (say tanh(
> 999999677873648767519238192348124812341234182374817239847812738481234871823+0i)
> ) and still get 1 + 0i as result. This seems to be related to the imaginary
> part as tanh(356) returns 1 in both Windows and Mac.
> We have obtained those results in:
> 1) Mac with El Capitan v 10.11.6 *processor: 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5*
> - 2) Mac with Sierra v 10.12.3 *processor: 3.2 GHz Intel Core i5*
> - 3) Windows 10 Home v 1607 *processor: Intel Core m3-SY30 CPU@ 0.90 GHz
> 1.51 GHz*
> - 4) Windows 7 Home Premium Service Pack 1 *processor: Intel Core i5-2410M
> CPU @2.30 GHz 2.30GHz.*
(The hardware should not matter).
Yes, there is a bug here on Windows only, (several Linux
versions work correctly too).
> ?In all cases we are using R version 3.3.3 (64 bits)?
> - *Does anybody have a clue on why is this happening?*
> ?PS: We have previously posted this issue in Stack Overflow (
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/42847414/hyperbolic-tangent-in-r-throws-nan-in-windows-but-not-in-mac).
> A comment suggests it is related to a glibc bug.
Yes, that would have been my guess too... as indeed, R on
Windows which should work for quite old versions of Windows has
been using a relatively old (gcc / libc) toolchain.
The upcoming version of R 3.4.0 uses a considerably newer
toolchain *BUT* I've just checked the latest "R-devel" binary
and the bug is still present there.
Here's a slight extension of the answer I wrote to the
above SO question here: http://stackoverflow.com/a/42923289/161921
... Windows uses somewhat old C libraries, and here it is the
"mathlib" part of glibc.
More specifically, according to the CRAN download page for R-devel for Windows
https://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/rdevel.html ,
the R 3.3.z series uses the gcc 4.6.3 (March 2012) toolchain, whereas
"R-devel", the upcoming (not yet released!) R 3.4.z series uses
the gcc 4.9.3 (June 2015) toolchain.
According to Ben Bolker's comment on SO, the bug in glibc should have
been fixed in 2012 -- and so the change from 4.6.3 to 4.9.3
should have helped,
**however* I've just checked (installed the R-devel binary from CRAN on our Windows server virtual machine) and I see that the problem is still present there: In yesterday's version of R-devel, tanh(500+0i) still returns NaN+0i.
I now think a better solution would be to use R's internal
substitute (in R's src/main/complex.c): There, we have
------------------------------------------------
#ifndef HAVE_CTANH
#define ctanh R_ctanh
static double complex ctanh(double complex z)
{
return -I * ctan(z * I); /* A&S 4.5.9 */
}
#endif
------------------------------------------------
and we should use it (by "#undef HAVE_CTAN" (or better by a
configure check, using ctanh("500 + 0i"),
as I see that on Windows,
R> -1i * tan((500+0i)*1i)
gives
[1] 1+0i
as it should for tanh(500+0i) --- but does not on Windows.
Martin Maechler
ETH Zurich and R Core
On 21.03.2017 10:54, Martin Maechler wrote:
Rodrigo Zepeda <rzepeda17 at gmail.com>
on Fri, 17 Mar 2017 12:56:06 -0600 writes:
> Dear all,
> We seem to have found a "strange" behaviour in the hyperbolic tangent
> function tanh on Windows.
> When running tanh(356 + 0i) the Windows result is NaN + 0.i while on Mac
> the result is 1 + 0i. It doesn't seem to be a floating point error because
> on Mac it is possible to run arbitrarily large numbers (say tanh(
> 999999677873648767519238192348124812341234182374817239847812738481234871823+0i)
> ) and still get 1 + 0i as result. This seems to be related to the imaginary
> part as tanh(356) returns 1 in both Windows and Mac.
> We have obtained those results in:
> 1) Mac with El Capitan v 10.11.6 *processor: 2.7 GHz Intel Core i5*
> - 2) Mac with Sierra v 10.12.3 *processor: 3.2 GHz Intel Core i5*
> - 3) Windows 10 Home v 1607 *processor: Intel Core m3-SY30 CPU@ 0.90 GHz
> 1.51 GHz*
> - 4) Windows 7 Home Premium Service Pack 1 *processor: Intel Core i5-2410M
> CPU @2.30 GHz 2.30GHz.*
(The hardware should not matter). Yes, there is a bug here on Windows only, (several Linux versions work correctly too).
> ?In all cases we are using R version 3.3.3 (64 bits)?
> - *Does anybody have a clue on why is this happening?*
> ?PS: We have previously posted this issue in Stack Overflow (
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/42847414/hyperbolic-tangent-in-r-throws-nan-in-windows-but-not-in-mac).
> A comment suggests it is related to a glibc bug.
Yes, that would have been my guess too... as indeed, R on Windows which should work for quite old versions of Windows has been using a relatively old (gcc / libc) toolchain. The upcoming version of R 3.4.0 uses a considerably newer toolchain *BUT* I've just checked the latest "R-devel" binary and the bug is still present there. Here's a slight extension of the answer I wrote to the above SO question here: http://stackoverflow.com/a/42923289/161921 ... Windows uses somewhat old C libraries, and here it is the "mathlib" part of glibc. More specifically, according to the CRAN download page for R-devel for Windows https://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/rdevel.html , the R 3.3.z series uses the gcc 4.6.3 (March 2012) toolchain, whereas "R-devel", the upcoming (not yet released!) R 3.4.z series uses the gcc 4.9.3 (June 2015) toolchain.
Actually the R-3.3.z series already uses gcc-4.9.3. Best, Uwe Ligges
According to Ben Bolker's comment on SO, the bug in glibc should have
been fixed in 2012 -- and so the change from 4.6.3 to 4.9.3
should have helped,
**however* I've just checked (installed the R-devel binary from CRAN on our Windows server virtual machine) and I see that the problem is still present there: In yesterday's version of R-devel, tanh(500+0i) still returns NaN+0i.
I now think a better solution would be to use R's internal
substitute (in R's src/main/complex.c): There, we have
------------------------------------------------
#ifndef HAVE_CTANH
#define ctanh R_ctanh
static double complex ctanh(double complex z)
{
return -I * ctan(z * I); /* A&S 4.5.9 */
}
#endif
------------------------------------------------
and we should use it (by "#undef HAVE_CTAN" (or better by a
configure check, using ctanh("500 + 0i"),
as I see that on Windows,
R> -1i * tan((500+0i)*1i)
gives
[1] 1+0i
as it should for tanh(500+0i) --- but does not on Windows.
Martin Maechler
ETH Zurich and R Core
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This looks like a bug in mingw-w64 CRT. The problem can be produced
with C++ without R:
#include <iostream>
#include <cmath>
#include <complex>
int main(){
std::cout << std::fixed;
std::complex<double> z(356, 0);
std::cout << "tanh" << z << " = " << std::tanh(z)
<< " (tanh(356) = " << std::tanh(356) << ")\n";
}
On OS-X we get:
tanh(356.000000,0.000000) = (1.000000,-0.000000) (tanh(356) = 1.000000)
But on Windows we get:
tanh(356.000000,0.000000) = (nan,0.000000) (tanh(356) = 1.000000)
I was also able to reproduce the problem with gcc 6.3 in msys2 so it
has not been fixed upstream. You should file a bug report for
mingw-w64.
FWIF, we have run into NaN edge-case bugs before with mingw-w64.
- https://sourceforge.net/p/mingw-w64/mingw-w64/ci/6617ebd5fc6b790c80071d5b1d950e737fc670e1/
- https://github.com/wch/r-source/commit/e9aaf8fdeddf27c2a9078cd214a41475c8ff6f40
I am cc'ing Ray Donnelly who is an expert on mingw-w64.
4 days later
For future reference: https://sourceforge.net/p/mingw-w64/mailman/message/35747206/
On Wed, Mar 22, 2017 at 2:12 PM, Jeroen Ooms <jeroenooms at gmail.com> wrote:
This looks like a bug in mingw-w64 CRT. The problem can be produced
with C++ without R:
#include <iostream>
#include <cmath>
#include <complex>
int main(){
std::cout << std::fixed;
std::complex<double> z(356, 0);
std::cout << "tanh" << z << " = " << std::tanh(z)
<< " (tanh(356) = " << std::tanh(356) << ")\n";
}
On OS-X we get:
tanh(356.000000,0.000000) = (1.000000,-0.000000) (tanh(356) = 1.000000)
But on Windows we get:
tanh(356.000000,0.000000) = (nan,0.000000) (tanh(356) = 1.000000)
I was also able to reproduce the problem with gcc 6.3 in msys2 so it
has not been fixed upstream. You should file a bug report for
mingw-w64.
FWIF, we have run into NaN edge-case bugs before with mingw-w64.
- https://sourceforge.net/p/mingw-w64/mingw-w64/ci/6617ebd5fc6b790c80071d5b1d950e737fc670e1/
- https://github.com/wch/r-source/commit/e9aaf8fdeddf27c2a9078cd214a41475c8ff6f40
I am cc'ing Ray Donnelly who is an expert on mingw-w64.