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Negative years with strptime?
5 messages · Winston Chang, Jeff Ryan, Rui Barradas
Hello,
Is there a bug with negative dates? Just see:
seq(as.Date("0000-01-01"), length = 22, by = "-1 year")
[1] "0000-01-01" "000/-01-01" "000.-01-01" "000--01-01" "000,-01-01"
[6] "000+-01-01" "000*-01-01" "000)-01-01" "000(-01-01" "000'-01-01"
[11] "00/0-01-01" "00//-01-01" "00/.-01-01" "00/--01-01" "00/,-01-01"
[16] "00/+-01-01" "00/*-01-01" "00/)-01-01" "00/(-01-01" "00/'-01-01"
[21] "00.0-01-01" "00./-01-01"
See the year number: "after" the zero, i.e., downward from zero, the
printed character is '/' which happens to be the ascii character before
'0', and before it's '.', etc. This sequence gives the nine ascii
characters before zero as last digit of the year, then the 10th is '0'
as (now) expected, then goes to the second digit, etc.
It seems to stop at the first 9, or else we would have some sort of real
problem.
Anyway, this doesn't look right.
Rui Barradas
Em 10-07-2012 22:17, Winston Chang escreveu:
Is there a way to make as.Date() and strptime() process strings with
negative years? It appears that Date objects can contain negative years and
you can convert them to strings, but you can't convert them back to Date
objects.
x <- as.Date(c("0001-01-24", "0500-01-24"))
as.character(x)
# "0001-01-24" "0500-02-02"
as.Date(as.character(x))
# "0001-01-24" "0500-01-24"
# Minus 391 days gives negative year
as.character(x - 391)
# "-001-12-30" "0498-12-29"
# Can't convert this string back to Date
as.Date(as.character(x - 391))
# Error during wrapup: character string is not in a standard unambiguous
format
# as.Date.character uses strptime, so we can try using strptime directly
strptime(as.character(x), "%Y-%m-%d")
# "0001-01-24" "0500-01-24"
strptime(as.character(x - 391), "%Y-%m-%d")
# NA "0498-12-29"
Thanks,
-Winston
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?as.Date
Why would pre 0000 years be handled correctly? The help file
explicitly states that they likely will not.
Note:
The default formats follow the rules of the ISO 8601 international
standard which expresses a day as ?"2001-02-03"?.
If the date string does not specify the date completely, the
returned answer may be system-specific. The most common behaviour
is to assume that a missing year, month or day is the current one.
If it specifies a date incorrectly, reliable implementations will
give an error and the date is reported as ?NA?. Unfortunately
some common implementations (such as ?glibc?) are unreliable and
guess at the intended meaning.
Years before 1CE (aka 1AD) will probably not be handled correctly.
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Rui Barradas <ruipbarradas at sapo.pt> wrote:
Hello,
Is there a bug with negative dates? Just see:
seq(as.Date("0000-01-01"), length = 22, by = "-1 year")
[1] "0000-01-01" "000/-01-01" "000.-01-01" "000--01-01" "000,-01-01"
[6] "000+-01-01" "000*-01-01" "000)-01-01" "000(-01-01" "000'-01-01"
[11] "00/0-01-01" "00//-01-01" "00/.-01-01" "00/--01-01" "00/,-01-01"
[16] "00/+-01-01" "00/*-01-01" "00/)-01-01" "00/(-01-01" "00/'-01-01"
[21] "00.0-01-01" "00./-01-01"
See the year number: "after" the zero, i.e., downward from zero, the printed
character is '/' which happens to be the ascii character before '0', and
before it's '.', etc. This sequence gives the nine ascii characters before
zero as last digit of the year, then the 10th is '0' as (now) expected, then
goes to the second digit, etc.
It seems to stop at the first 9, or else we would have some sort of real
problem.
Anyway, this doesn't look right.
Rui Barradas
Em 10-07-2012 22:17, Winston Chang escreveu:
Is there a way to make as.Date() and strptime() process strings with
negative years? It appears that Date objects can contain negative years
and
you can convert them to strings, but you can't convert them back to Date
objects.
x <- as.Date(c("0001-01-24", "0500-01-24"))
as.character(x)
# "0001-01-24" "0500-02-02"
as.Date(as.character(x))
# "0001-01-24" "0500-01-24"
# Minus 391 days gives negative year
as.character(x - 391)
# "-001-12-30" "0498-12-29"
# Can't convert this string back to Date
as.Date(as.character(x - 391))
# Error during wrapup: character string is not in a standard unambiguous
format
# as.Date.character uses strptime, so we can try using strptime directly
strptime(as.character(x), "%Y-%m-%d")
# "0001-01-24" "0500-01-24"
strptime(as.character(x - 391), "%Y-%m-%d")
# NA "0498-12-29"
Thanks,
-Winston
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On my earlier post I forgot to mention the sessionInfo() R version 2.15.0 (2012-03-30) Platform: i386-pc-mingw32/i386 (32-bit) locale: [1] LC_COLLATE=Portuguese_Portugal.1252 LC_CTYPE=Portuguese_Portugal.1252 [3] LC_MONETARY=Portuguese_Portugal.1252 LC_NUMERIC=C [5] LC_TIME=Portuguese_Portugal.1252 attached base packages: [1] stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base Rui Barradas Em 11-07-2012 02:05, Winston Chang escreveu:
It looks different on my system (Mac, R 2.15.1)
seq(as.Date("0000-01-01"), length = 22, by = "-1 year")
[1] "0000-01-01" "-001-01-01" "-002-01-01" "-003-01-01" "-004-01-01"
[6] "-005-01-01" "-006-01-01" "-007-01-01" "-008-01-01" "-009-01-01"
[11] "-010-01-01" "-011-01-01" "-012-01-01" "-013-01-01" "-014-01-01"
[16] "-015-01-01" "-016-01-01" "-017-01-01" "-018-01-01" "-019-01-01"
[21] "-020-01-01" "-021-01-01"
So in addition to the issues with converting a negative-year string to a
Date, it looks like converting a negative date to a string with
as.character.Date() is probably also not consistent.
It certainly would be useful to have a way of handling dates with
negative years.
-Winston
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Rui Barradas <ruipbarradas at sapo.pt
<mailto:ruipbarradas at sapo.pt>> wrote:
Hello,
Is there a bug with negative dates? Just see:
seq(as.Date("0000-01-01"), length = 22, by = "-1 year")
[1] "0000-01-01" "000/-01-01" "000.-01-01" "000--01-01" "000,-01-01"
[6] "000+-01-01" "000*-01-01" "000)-01-01" "000(-01-01" "000'-01-01"
[11] "00/0-01-01" "00//-01-01" "00/.-01-01" "00/--01-01" "00/,-01-01"
[16] "00/+-01-01" "00/*-01-01" "00/)-01-01" "00/(-01-01" "00/'-01-01"
[21] "00.0-01-01" "00./-01-01"
See the year number: "after" the zero, i.e., downward from zero, the
printed character is '/' which happens to be the ascii character
before '0', and before it's '.', etc. This sequence gives the nine
ascii characters before zero as last digit of the year, then the
10th is '0' as (now) expected, then goes to the second digit, etc.
It seems to stop at the first 9, or else we would have some sort of
real problem.
Anyway, this doesn't look right.
Rui Barradas
Em 10-07-2012 22:17, Winston Chang escreveu:
Is there a way to make as.Date() and strptime() process strings with
negative years? It appears that Date objects can contain
negative years and
you can convert them to strings, but you can't convert them back
to Date
objects.
x <- as.Date(c("0001-01-24", "0500-01-24"))
as.character(x)
# "0001-01-24" "0500-02-02"
as.Date(as.character(x))
# "0001-01-24" "0500-01-24"
# Minus 391 days gives negative year
as.character(x - 391)
# "-001-12-30" "0498-12-29"
# Can't convert this string back to Date
as.Date(as.character(x - 391))
# Error during wrapup: character string is not in a standard
unambiguous
format
# as.Date.character uses strptime, so we can try using strptime
directly
strptime(as.character(x), "%Y-%m-%d")
# "0001-01-24" "0500-01-24"
strptime(as.character(x - 391), "%Y-%m-%d")
# NA "0498-12-29"
Thanks,
-Winston
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