Dear R developers,
Motivated by discussion about checking inheritance of S3 and S4
objects (in head matrix/array topic) I would light to shed some light
on a minor gap about that matter in R C API.
Currently we are able to check inheritance for S3 class objects from C
in a robust way (no allocation, thread safe). This is unfortunately
not possible for S4 classes. I would kindly request new function in R
C api so it can be achieved for S4 classes with no risk of allocation.
For reference mentioned functions below. Thank you.
Jan Gorecki
// S3 inheritance
bool INHERITS(SEXP x, SEXP char_) {
SEXP klass;
if (isString(klass = getAttrib(x, R_ClassSymbol))) {
for (int i=0; i<LENGTH(klass); i++) {
if (STRING_ELT(klass, i) == char_) return true;
}
}
return false;
}
// S4 inheritance
bool Rinherits(SEXP x, SEXP char_) {
SEXP vec = PROTECT(ScalarString(char_));
SEXP call = PROTECT(lang3(sym_inherits, x, vec));
bool ans = LOGICAL(eval(call, R_GlobalEnv))[0]==1;
UNPROTECT(2);
return ans;
}
R C api for 'inherits' S3 and S4 objects
8 messages · Jan Gorecki, Luke Tierney, Gábor Csárdi +2 more
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, Jan Gorecki wrote:
Dear R developers, Motivated by discussion about checking inheritance of S3 and S4 objects (in head matrix/array topic) I would light to shed some light on a minor gap about that matter in R C API. Currently we are able to check inheritance for S3 class objects from C in a robust way (no allocation, thread safe). This is unfortunately
Your premise is not correct. Rf_inherits will not GC but it can allocate and is not thread safe. Best, luke
not possible for S4 classes. I would kindly request new function in R
C api so it can be achieved for S4 classes with no risk of allocation.
For reference mentioned functions below. Thank you.
Jan Gorecki
// S3 inheritance
bool INHERITS(SEXP x, SEXP char_) {
SEXP klass;
if (isString(klass = getAttrib(x, R_ClassSymbol))) {
for (int i=0; i<LENGTH(klass); i++) {
if (STRING_ELT(klass, i) == char_) return true;
}
}
return false;
}
// S4 inheritance
bool Rinherits(SEXP x, SEXP char_) {
SEXP vec = PROTECT(ScalarString(char_));
SEXP call = PROTECT(lang3(sym_inherits, x, vec));
bool ans = LOGICAL(eval(call, R_GlobalEnv))[0]==1;
UNPROTECT(2);
return ans;
}
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University of Iowa Phone: 319-335-3386
Department of Statistics and Fax: 319-335-3017
Actuarial Science
241 Schaeffer Hall email: luke-tierney at uiowa.edu
Iowa City, IA 52242 WWW: http://www.stat.uiowa.edu
Thank you Luke. That is why I don't use Rf_inherits but INHERITS which does not allocate, provided in the email body. I cannot do similarly for S4 classes, thus asking for some API for that.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 5:56 PM Tierney, Luke <luke-tierney at uiowa.edu> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, Jan Gorecki wrote:
Dear R developers, Motivated by discussion about checking inheritance of S3 and S4 objects (in head matrix/array topic) I would light to shed some light on a minor gap about that matter in R C API. Currently we are able to check inheritance for S3 class objects from C in a robust way (no allocation, thread safe). This is unfortunately
Your premise is not correct. Rf_inherits will not GC but it can allocate and is not thread safe. Best, luke
not possible for S4 classes. I would kindly request new function in R
C api so it can be achieved for S4 classes with no risk of allocation.
For reference mentioned functions below. Thank you.
Jan Gorecki
// S3 inheritance
bool INHERITS(SEXP x, SEXP char_) {
SEXP klass;
if (isString(klass = getAttrib(x, R_ClassSymbol))) {
for (int i=0; i<LENGTH(klass); i++) {
if (STRING_ELT(klass, i) == char_) return true;
}
}
return false;
}
// S4 inheritance
bool Rinherits(SEXP x, SEXP char_) {
SEXP vec = PROTECT(ScalarString(char_));
SEXP call = PROTECT(lang3(sym_inherits, x, vec));
bool ans = LOGICAL(eval(call, R_GlobalEnv))[0]==1;
UNPROTECT(2);
return ans;
}
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University of Iowa Phone: 319-335-3386
Department of Statistics and Fax: 319-335-3017
Actuarial Science
241 Schaeffer Hall email: luke-tierney at uiowa.edu
Iowa City, IA 52242 WWW: http://www.stat.uiowa.edu
AFAIR getAttrib() can allocate as well. Also, R API functions that do not allocate today, may allocate in the future. Gabor
On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 1:24 PM Jan Gorecki <j.gorecki at wit.edu.pl> wrote:
Thank you Luke. That is why I don't use Rf_inherits but INHERITS which does not allocate, provided in the email body. I cannot do similarly for S4 classes, thus asking for some API for that. On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 5:56 PM Tierney, Luke <luke-tierney at uiowa.edu> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, Jan Gorecki wrote:
Dear R developers, Motivated by discussion about checking inheritance of S3 and S4 objects (in head matrix/array topic) I would light to shed some light on a minor gap about that matter in R C API. Currently we are able to check inheritance for S3 class objects from C in a robust way (no allocation, thread safe). This is unfortunately
Your premise is not correct. Rf_inherits will not GC but it can allocate and is not thread safe. Best, luke
not possible for S4 classes. I would kindly request new function in R
C api so it can be achieved for S4 classes with no risk of allocation.
For reference mentioned functions below. Thank you.
Jan Gorecki
// S3 inheritance
bool INHERITS(SEXP x, SEXP char_) {
SEXP klass;
if (isString(klass = getAttrib(x, R_ClassSymbol))) {
for (int i=0; i<LENGTH(klass); i++) {
if (STRING_ELT(klass, i) == char_) return true;
}
}
return false;
}
// S4 inheritance
bool Rinherits(SEXP x, SEXP char_) {
SEXP vec = PROTECT(ScalarString(char_));
SEXP call = PROTECT(lang3(sym_inherits, x, vec));
bool ans = LOGICAL(eval(call, R_GlobalEnv))[0]==1;
UNPROTECT(2);
return ans;
}
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University of Iowa Phone: 319-335-3386
Department of Statistics and Fax: 319-335-3017
Actuarial Science
241 Schaeffer Hall email: luke-tierney at uiowa.edu
Iowa City, IA 52242 WWW: http://www.stat.uiowa.edu
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Note that your desire is by definition impossible - as your example also shows checking for S4 inheritance involves evaluation and thus allocation which cannot be avoided by the dynamic design of S4 inheritance. Cheers, Simon
On Nov 1, 2019, at 9:23 AM, Jan Gorecki <j.gorecki at wit.edu.pl> wrote: Thank you Luke. That is why I don't use Rf_inherits but INHERITS which does not allocate, provided in the email body. I cannot do similarly for S4 classes, thus asking for some API for that. On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 5:56 PM Tierney, Luke <luke-tierney at uiowa.edu> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, Jan Gorecki wrote:
Dear R developers, Motivated by discussion about checking inheritance of S3 and S4 objects (in head matrix/array topic) I would light to shed some light on a minor gap about that matter in R C API. Currently we are able to check inheritance for S3 class objects from C in a robust way (no allocation, thread safe). This is unfortunately
Your premise is not correct. Rf_inherits will not GC but it can allocate and is not thread safe. Best, luke
not possible for S4 classes. I would kindly request new function in R
C api so it can be achieved for S4 classes with no risk of allocation.
For reference mentioned functions below. Thank you.
Jan Gorecki
// S3 inheritance
bool INHERITS(SEXP x, SEXP char_) {
SEXP klass;
if (isString(klass = getAttrib(x, R_ClassSymbol))) {
for (int i=0; i<LENGTH(klass); i++) {
if (STRING_ELT(klass, i) == char_) return true;
}
}
return false;
}
// S4 inheritance
bool Rinherits(SEXP x, SEXP char_) {
SEXP vec = PROTECT(ScalarString(char_));
SEXP call = PROTECT(lang3(sym_inherits, x, vec));
bool ans = LOGICAL(eval(call, R_GlobalEnv))[0]==1;
UNPROTECT(2);
return ans;
}
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On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, Jan Gorecki wrote:
Thank you Luke. That is why I don't use Rf_inherits but INHERITS which does not allocate, provided in the email body.
Your definition can allocate because STING_ELT can allocate. getAttrib can GC in general. Currently it would not GC or allocate in this case, but this could change. You can't assume thread-safety for calls into the R API, or any API for that matter, unless they are documented to be thread-safe. You would be better off using Rf_inherits as it does not make the assumption that you can use pointer comparisons to check for identical strings. CHARSXPs are almost always cached but they are not guaranteed to be, and the caching strategy might change in the future. Best, luke
I cannot do similarly for S4 classes, thus asking for some API for that. On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 5:56 PM Tierney, Luke <luke-tierney at uiowa.edu> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, Jan Gorecki wrote:
Dear R developers, Motivated by discussion about checking inheritance of S3 and S4 objects (in head matrix/array topic) I would light to shed some light on a minor gap about that matter in R C API. Currently we are able to check inheritance for S3 class objects from C in a robust way (no allocation, thread safe). This is unfortunately
Your premise is not correct. Rf_inherits will not GC but it can allocate and is not thread safe. Best, luke
not possible for S4 classes. I would kindly request new function in R
C api so it can be achieved for S4 classes with no risk of allocation.
For reference mentioned functions below. Thank you.
Jan Gorecki
// S3 inheritance
bool INHERITS(SEXP x, SEXP char_) {
SEXP klass;
if (isString(klass = getAttrib(x, R_ClassSymbol))) {
for (int i=0; i<LENGTH(klass); i++) {
if (STRING_ELT(klass, i) == char_) return true;
}
}
return false;
}
// S4 inheritance
bool Rinherits(SEXP x, SEXP char_) {
SEXP vec = PROTECT(ScalarString(char_));
SEXP call = PROTECT(lang3(sym_inherits, x, vec));
bool ans = LOGICAL(eval(call, R_GlobalEnv))[0]==1;
UNPROTECT(2);
return ans;
}
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Ralph E. Wareham Professor of Mathematical Sciences
University of Iowa Phone: 319-335-3386
Department of Statistics and Fax: 319-335-3017
Actuarial Science
241 Schaeffer Hall email: luke-tierney at uiowa.edu
Iowa City, IA 52242 WWW: http://www.stat.uiowa.edu
Luke Tierney
Ralph E. Wareham Professor of Mathematical Sciences
University of Iowa Phone: 319-335-3386
Department of Statistics and Fax: 319-335-3017
Actuarial Science
241 Schaeffer Hall email: luke-tierney at uiowa.edu
Iowa City, IA 52242 WWW: http://www.stat.uiowa.edu
If your goal is to perform multithreaded computations, why not perform all necessary interactions with R upfront and then compute only on primitives? It would help for us to understand your use case.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 4:26 AM Jan Gorecki <j.gorecki at wit.edu.pl> wrote:
Dear R developers,
Motivated by discussion about checking inheritance of S3 and S4
objects (in head matrix/array topic) I would light to shed some light
on a minor gap about that matter in R C API.
Currently we are able to check inheritance for S3 class objects from C
in a robust way (no allocation, thread safe). This is unfortunately
not possible for S4 classes. I would kindly request new function in R
C api so it can be achieved for S4 classes with no risk of allocation.
For reference mentioned functions below. Thank you.
Jan Gorecki
// S3 inheritance
bool INHERITS(SEXP x, SEXP char_) {
SEXP klass;
if (isString(klass = getAttrib(x, R_ClassSymbol))) {
for (int i=0; i<LENGTH(klass); i++) {
if (STRING_ELT(klass, i) == char_) return true;
}
}
return false;
}
// S4 inheritance
bool Rinherits(SEXP x, SEXP char_) {
SEXP vec = PROTECT(ScalarString(char_));
SEXP call = PROTECT(lang3(sym_inherits, x, vec));
bool ans = LOGICAL(eval(call, R_GlobalEnv))[0]==1;
UNPROTECT(2);
return ans;
}
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Thank you all for your valuable comments. Best, Jan
On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 8:15 PM Tierney, Luke <luke-tierney at uiowa.edu> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, Jan Gorecki wrote:
Thank you Luke. That is why I don't use Rf_inherits but INHERITS which does not allocate, provided in the email body.
Your definition can allocate because STING_ELT can allocate. getAttrib can GC in general. Currently it would not GC or allocate in this case, but this could change. You can't assume thread-safety for calls into the R API, or any API for that matter, unless they are documented to be thread-safe. You would be better off using Rf_inherits as it does not make the assumption that you can use pointer comparisons to check for identical strings. CHARSXPs are almost always cached but they are not guaranteed to be, and the caching strategy might change in the future. Best, luke
I cannot do similarly for S4 classes, thus asking for some API for that. On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 5:56 PM Tierney, Luke <luke-tierney at uiowa.edu> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Nov 2019, Jan Gorecki wrote:
Dear R developers, Motivated by discussion about checking inheritance of S3 and S4 objects (in head matrix/array topic) I would light to shed some light on a minor gap about that matter in R C API. Currently we are able to check inheritance for S3 class objects from C in a robust way (no allocation, thread safe). This is unfortunately
Your premise is not correct. Rf_inherits will not GC but it can allocate and is not thread safe. Best, luke
not possible for S4 classes. I would kindly request new function in R
C api so it can be achieved for S4 classes with no risk of allocation.
For reference mentioned functions below. Thank you.
Jan Gorecki
// S3 inheritance
bool INHERITS(SEXP x, SEXP char_) {
SEXP klass;
if (isString(klass = getAttrib(x, R_ClassSymbol))) {
for (int i=0; i<LENGTH(klass); i++) {
if (STRING_ELT(klass, i) == char_) return true;
}
}
return false;
}
// S4 inheritance
bool Rinherits(SEXP x, SEXP char_) {
SEXP vec = PROTECT(ScalarString(char_));
SEXP call = PROTECT(lang3(sym_inherits, x, vec));
bool ans = LOGICAL(eval(call, R_GlobalEnv))[0]==1;
UNPROTECT(2);
return ans;
}
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Ralph E. Wareham Professor of Mathematical Sciences
University of Iowa Phone: 319-335-3386
Department of Statistics and Fax: 319-335-3017
Actuarial Science
241 Schaeffer Hall email: luke-tierney at uiowa.edu
Iowa City, IA 52242 WWW: http://www.stat.uiowa.edu
--
Luke Tierney
Ralph E. Wareham Professor of Mathematical Sciences
University of Iowa Phone: 319-335-3386
Department of Statistics and Fax: 319-335-3017
Actuarial Science
241 Schaeffer Hall email: luke-tierney at uiowa.edu
Iowa City, IA 52242 WWW: http://www.stat.uiowa.edu