Full_Name: Egon Willighagen Version: 1.4.x OS: Linux/Solaris Submission from: (NULL) (131.174.179.30) I would like to have an gui for KDE (like gnome). -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-devel mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-devel-request@stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._
KDE frontend (PR#1384)
8 messages · Peter Dalgaard, Egon Willighagen, Dirk Eddelbuettel +2 more
egonw@sci.kun.nl writes:
Full_Name: Egon Willighagen Version: 1.4.x OS: Linux/Solaris Submission from: (NULL) (131.174.179.30) I would like to have an gui for KDE (like gnome).
This is hardly a bug, so you might have put "wishlist" or so in the subject. On the other hand it is fairly useful to file enhancement requests too. However, this is a bit of a mouthful to implement. Do you have a handle on how to go about it? Contributions are welcome...
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On Thursday 14 March 2002 15:46, Peter Dalgaard BSA wrote:
egonw@sci.kun.nl writes:
Full_Name: Egon Willighagen Version: 1.4.x OS: Linux/Solaris Submission from: (NULL) (131.174.179.30) I would like to have an gui for KDE (like gnome).
This is hardly a bug, so you might have put "wishlist" or so in the subject. On the other hand it is fairly useful to file enhancement requests too.
It was intended a wishlist bug... The bug submit page [1] did not ask a bug level, and I assumed it was going to be asked in a subsequent page... my apologies. I cannot change the status myself... but it should indeed be wishlist.
However, this is a bit of a mouthful to implement. Do you have a handle on how to go about it? Contributions are welcome...
At this time I do not know how to write a KDE frontend, but once I have some more insight I will share this info.... i can send such info to which email address to automatically have it included in the bug archive? Egon 1. http://r-bugs.biostat.ku.dk/cgi-bin/R -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-devel mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-devel-request@stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 03:21:04PM +0100, egonw@sci.kun.nl wrote:
Full_Name: Egon Willighagen Version: 1.4.x OS: Linux/Solaris Submission from: (NULL) (131.174.179.30) I would like to have an gui for KDE (like gnome).
Great. You know which address you need to send code contributions too, don't you? Money might be accepted too so that we can hire a programmer if you are short of time yourself. Oh, and I would like a BMW motorcycle. Where do I file that bug report? Dirk
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"E.L. Willighagen" <egonw@sci.kun.nl> writes:
At this time I do not know how to write a KDE frontend, but once I have some more insight I will share this info.... i can send such info to which email address to automatically have it included in the bug archive?
For small notes, you can follow up on this report, just make sure that the subject line has "(PR#1384)" in it. If it gets excessive (it likely will...) there's the r-devel mailing list for discussions of the development plans and process.
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Peter Dalgaard BSA wrote:
egonw@sci.kun.nl writes:
Full_Name: Egon Willighagen Version: 1.4.x OS: Linux/Solaris Submission from: (NULL) (131.174.179.30) I would like to have an gui for KDE (like gnome).
... However, this is a bit of a mouthful to implement. Do you have a handle on how to go about it? Contributions are welcome...
Just thought I'd add this for the record.....
As a general strategy for building GUIs for use in R, I believe it
will be much more beneficial to do this in two steps:
a) create a set of R-language bindings to the GUI toolkit
of interest (Qt in this case)
b) build one or more GUIs for R in the R language.
The obvious benefits are that i) we can use the bindings to write
other GUIs, and ii) more people can adapt the GUI code to create their
own customized version(s). This hopefully avoids us creating "the" R
GUI containing an interface to every function known to mankind! A
third benefit is that perhaps the GUI design can be more readily
adapted for different toolkits (e.g. Gtk, Qt, wxWindows, MFC, etc.)
We already have bindings for several toolkits: the tcltk package to
Tk, RGtk for Gtk/Gnome, (a recently more stable) SJava for Swing/AWT.
The SWIG, the RGtk package, etc. might provide a place to look for
automating the bindings to Qt.
The KDE toolkit, Qt, is C++ which makes it slightly more tricky to
handle. But there are C bindings for it.
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On Thursday 14 March 2002 16:06, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 03:21:04PM +0100, egonw@sci.kun.nl wrote:
Full_Name: Egon Willighagen Version: 1.4.x OS: Linux/Solaris Submission from: (NULL) (131.174.179.30) I would like to have an gui for KDE (like gnome).
Great. You know which address you need to send code contributions too, don't you? Money might be accepted too so that we can hire a programmer if you are short of time yourself.
I like this kind of sarcasm... But you understand that I am probably not the only one interested in this... Moreover, a note (read: wishlist bug) on such a request does not mean it has to be implemented (at once/any time). It is just a note that people are/i am interested in it...
Oh, and I would like a BMW motorcycle. Where do I file that bug report?
What about http://www.bmwusacycles.com/lit_request.html? Egon -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-devel mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-devel-request@stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._
On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Duncan Temple Lang wrote:
Peter Dalgaard BSA wrote:
egonw@sci.kun.nl writes:
Full_Name: Egon Willighagen Version: 1.4.x OS: Linux/Solaris Submission from: (NULL) (131.174.179.30) I would like to have an gui for KDE (like gnome).
... However, this is a bit of a mouthful to implement. Do you have a handle on how to go about it? Contributions are welcome...
Just thought I'd add this for the record.....
As a general strategy for building GUIs for use in R, I believe it
will be much more beneficial to do this in two steps:
a) create a set of R-language bindings to the GUI toolkit
of interest (Qt in this case)
b) build one or more GUIs for R in the R language.
The obvious benefits are that i) we can use the bindings to write
other GUIs, and ii) more people can adapt the GUI code to create their
own customized version(s). This hopefully avoids us creating "the" R
GUI containing an interface to every function known to mankind! A
third benefit is that perhaps the GUI design can be more readily
adapted for different toolkits (e.g. Gtk, Qt, wxWindows, MFC, etc.)
To toss in my $.02--it seems to me that it would be nice to push the GUIs (or any interface) "out of the core" s.t. GUIs are basically creating an R context just like any other embedding program. For most GUIs the main executable (if I understand Duncan's comments correctly) would mostly be a stub to get the GUI moving inside of the package that actually implements the GUI itself (allowing for more control over the GUI from the R environment---dynamic menus, etc, etc). Alternatively, there could be a generalized GUI interface whose C interface is implemented by the main executable and then registered (now that registration is nice)---this is probably the more difficult route and perhaps the more limiting route in the long run (various GUIs may have various nice features).
We already have bindings for several toolkits: the tcltk package to Tk, RGtk for Gtk/Gnome, (a recently more stable) SJava for Swing/AWT. The SWIG, the RGtk package, etc. might provide a place to look for automating the bindings to Qt. The KDE toolkit, Qt, is C++ which makes it slightly more tricky to handle. But there are C bindings for it.
Well, it could be an ObjC binding :-)
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