Message-ID: <677ee07e0902270645o7b9fdb44g18183de86fb70629@mail.gmail.com>
Date: 2009-02-27T14:45:05Z
From: Thomas Levine
Subject: Inefficiency of SAS Programming
In-Reply-To: <49A7EF30.4080407@vanderbilt.edu>
I had enrolled in a statistics course this semester, but after the
first class, I dropped it because it uses SAS. This thread makes me
quite glad.
Tom!
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Frank E Harrell Jr
<f.harrell at vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
> Wensui Liu wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for pointing me to the SAS code, Dr Harrell
>> After reading codes, I have to say that the inefficiency is not
>> related to SAS language itself but the SAS programmer. An experienced
>> SAS programmer won't use much of hard-coding, very adhoc and difficult
>> to maintain.
>> I agree with you that in the SAS code, it is a little too much to
>> evaluate predictions. such complex data step actually can be replaced
>> by simpler iml code.
>
> Agreed that the SAS code could have been much better. ?I programmed in SAS
> for 23 years and would have done it much differently. ?But you will find
> that the most elegant SAS program re-write will still be a far cry from the
> elegance of R.
>
> Frank
>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Frank E Harrell Jr
>> <f.harrell at vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> If anyone wants to see a prime example of how inefficient it is to
>>> program
>>> in SAS, take a look at the SAS programs provided by the US Agency for
>>> Healthcare Research and Quality for risk adjusting and reporting for
>>> hospital outcomes at http://www.qualityindicators.ahrq.gov/software.htm .
>>> ?The PSSASP3.SAS program is a prime example. ?Look at how you do a vector
>>> product in the SAS macro language to evaluate predictions from a logistic
>>> regression model. ?I estimate that using R would easily cut the
>>> programming
>>> time of this set of programs by a factor of 4.
>>>
>>> Frank
>>> --
>>> Frank E Harrell Jr ? Professor and Chair ? ? ? ? ? School of Medicine
>>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Department of Biostatistics ? Vanderbilt University
>>>
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>>
>>
>
>
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