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Problem with metaMDS in vegan

Fabian B <fabian.boetzl <at> freenet.de> writes:
I think nothing is going wrong: you just have that kind of data, and
there is nothing wrong there.

There is nothing to reproduce here, but it *seems* that you may have
a disjoint data set with two clusters sharing nothing between them.
The metaMDS is obsessed with that difference and does its best to
separate these clusters. If you set 'maxit=10', it does not have time
to finish the job, and you get two clouds. Just let it finish, and the
clouds are squeezed to singularities. 

If you want to see the structure within these singularities, you
could analyses these groups of points separately. Then the major
difference between clouds won't obscure you.

I am not quite convinced that Bray-Curtis (distance='bray') is the
best choice of dissimilarity measure for these kind of data. If you
have scaled values (percentages), choices like 'distance = "manhattan"'
or 'distance = "euclidean"' or 'distance = "gower"' could work better.

As we have no reproducible example, this is all guessing.

Cheers, Jari Oksanen