R on netbooks et al?
On 08-Mar-09 17:44:18, Douglas Bates wrote:
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Michael Dewey <info at aghmed.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
At 08:47 05/03/2009, herrdittmann at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Dear useRs, With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops" I am tempted to get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel with respect to R. Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on?
One issue is whether you wish to use Linux or Windows. If you do use Linux I would advise picking a netbook with one of the standard distributions. The early EEE PC had Xandros and dire warnings about using the Debian repositiories. In fact I had no problem despite a total lack of experience although I am not sure what will happy with the recent move to lenny.
Because I have used Debian Linux and Debian-based distributions like Ubuntu for many years, I installed a eee-specific version of Ubuntu within a day or two of getting an ASUS eee pc1000. There are currently at least two versions of Ubuntu, "easy peasy" and eeebuntu, that are specific to the eee pc models. I started with "easy peasy" at the time it was called something else (Ubuntu eee?) and later switched to eeebuntu. In both cases packages for the latest versions of R from the Ubuntu package repository on CRAN worked flawlessly. I find the netbook to be very convenient. Having a 5 hour battery life and a weight of less than 3 pounds is wonderful. I teach all of my classes with it and even use it at home (attached to a monitor, USB keyboard and mouse and an external hard drive) in lieu of a desktop computer. (I have been eyeing the "eee box" covetously but have not yet convinced myself that I really need yet another computer). I develop R packages on it and don't really notice that it is "under-powered" by today's standards. Of course, when I started computing and even when I started working with the S language the memory capacity of computers was measured in kilobytes so the thought of "only" 1Gb of memory doesn't cause me to shriek in horror.
Thanks for sharing your experiences, Doug. Given that devices like the EeePC are marketed in terms of "less demanding" users, it's good to know what it is like for a "hard user". Further related comments would be welcome! I have to agree about the RAM issue too. My once-trusty old Sharp MZ-80B CP/M machine (early 1980s), with its 64KB and occupying a good 0.25 m^3 of physical space, would have to be replicated 2^14 = 16384 times over to give the same RAM (and occupy some 400 m^3 of space, say 7.4m x 7.4m x 7.4m, or about the size of my house). Now I have things on my desk, about the size of my thumb, with 8MB in each. Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding at manchester.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 08-Mar-09 Time: 18:20:45 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------