Message-ID: <XFMail.20120216185711.Ted.Harding@wlandres.net>
Date: 2012-02-16T18:57:11Z
From: (Ted Harding)
Subject: Wilcoxon test p value with one decimal place
In-Reply-To: <CACk-te3kxt_OwRZEwwQ_5VQu5Y2o3ediugAAeJUWoLDshiwTww@mail.gmail.com>
On 16-Feb-2012 Bert Gunter wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Jun Shen <jun.shen.ut at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear list,
>>
>> Let's say I have data
>>
>> _a=c(37.961,38.214,57.68)
>> _b=c(77.56,61.875,67.683)
>>
>>
>>
>> the wilcoxon test only gives me a p value with one decimal place. Is this
>> normal?
>
> No, it's discrete :-)
>
> (Actually, that's the answer. Read up on the Mann-Whitney test to see why).
>
> -- Bert
>
> Thanks.
>> Jun
To expand on Bert's reply:
Given two sets of 3 numbers (x,y,z), (X,Y,Z) with x < y < z
and X < Y < Z, there are exactly 20 ways to merge them together
(according to possible relationships between the values in the
first and the second):
x < y < z < X < Y < Z
x < y < X < z < Y < Z
x < y < X < Y < z < Z
x < y < X < Y < Z < z
[and so on until]
X < Y < x < Z < y < z
X < Y < Z < x < y < z
Your example is the first of these so has probability 1/20.
Since the default for wilcox.test is "two.sided", the result
takes into account also arrangements which are at least as
extreme as the one given, of which the only case is the last
one in the above list, which also has probability 1/20.
Hence the 2-sided P-value is 1/20 + 1/20 = 1/10, which is
exactly 0.1, as returned by wilcox.test(). It would be possible
to display the result as 0.10000, say, but there is no point!
If you do
wilcox.test(a,b, alternative="less")
then you will get 0.05 as P-value -- again exactly right.
Ted.
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Date: 16-Feb-2012 Time: 18:57:08
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