Message-ID: <XFMail.041124132849.Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk>
Date: 2004-11-24T13:28:49Z
From: (Ted Harding)
Subject: Grumble ...
In-Reply-To: <16804.33853.572143.292962@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
On 24-Nov-04 Martin Maechler wrote:
>>>>>> "Ted" == Ted Harding <Ted.Harding at nessie.mcc.ac.uk>
> [...]
> Ted> [...] The "Challenge"
> Ted> mechanism would destroy the mailing-list community if
> Ted> it became widely adopted.
>
> Exactly.
> I've received such a message myself from the same "machine" and
> -- as mailing list manager -- tried to find out more.
>
> The problem is that diagnosticando at uol.com.br is not subscribed
> to R-help. One other person is and I have written e-mail to that
> address withOUT getting such a message back..
>
> Again, I completely agree that it is absolutely inacceptable
> to subscribe from such a spam-blocking address.
>
>
> Ted> One reason I am posting this grumble to R-help is in
> Ted> the hope that I get a challenge to this one too. In
> Ted> that case, once and for all, I shall respond, so that
> Ted> the recipient will see this message and (I hope) do
> Ted> something about it, to eliminate the "Challenge"
> Ted> responder (I can't find the true recipient's email
> Ted> address from the "Challenge").
>
> please let me (or R-help too) know what you find out.
>
> Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich
> (R-help mailing list maintainer)
Hi Martin,
I'm pleased to receive such positive support! (I was apprehensive
about annoying the list with this issue).
I did get a "Challenge" to the Grumble, so I confirmed that one.
I have heard nothing yet from anyone who might be connected to
uol.com.br but of course may do so later.
I visited the uol.com.br website and found the following on it:
http://antispam.uol.com.br/autorizados.jhtm#discussao
4. Como autorizar listas de discuss??o?
As mensagens de algumas listas/grupos de discuss??o
chegam com o campo "Para:" preenchido com um e-mail
que n??o ?? o seu (e sim o e-mail geral da lista).
Para receber estas mensagens em sua pasta de entrada,
acesse o Web Mail e clique no op????o Grupos/Listas do
AntiSpam UOL. Em seguida, autorize o e-mail das listas
que voc?? participa.
which, as well as I can understand it, suggests that someone
subscribed to a mailing list can set that mailing-list as an
acceptable sender. What's not clear to me is whether, having
done that, it over-rides challenging the originator (e.g. me)
of the message.
Thanks, and best wishes,
Ted.
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