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Animal Morphology: Deriving Classification Equation with

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Dear Ted,

Thank you for taking the time out to help me with this analysis. I'm seeing
that I may have left out a crucial detail concerning this analysis. The ID
measurement (interpubic distance) is a new measurement that has never been
used in the field of ornithology (to my knowledge). The objective of the
paper is to demonstrate the usefulness of ID. The paper compared ID with
plumage criterion, a categorical variable at best, but under peer-review
there is a request to use other morphological data to compare/contrast ID.
Unfortunately, wing (WG) and weight (WT) were the only measurements taken in
addition to ID in this study.

The purpose of the LDA is to demonstrate the power if ID in the context of
WG and WT. I agree that WG is a terrible metric for discrimination, WT is
good but there is significant overlap between groups, but ID is a good
discriminator on it's own (classified 97-100% of all individuals based on
92.5% CI).

You pointed out that I am violating assumptions with LDA based on different
covariances between sexes (thank you... I never would have caught it). I'm
wondering how to proceed.

Should I:

1) Perform linear discrimination with WT and ID, and then determine a
classification equation? And, if I do how do I derive the classification
equation (e.g. [Cj = cj0+ cjWTxWT+ cjIDxID; Cj>x= male, Cj<x=female])

2) Demonstrate that ID is important based on linear discrimanant
coefficients and structure coefficients from this WG, WT, and ID LDA;
discuss the assumption violation and argue for it's use as a demonstration
of variable predicting power; and NOT provide a classification equation
because we already have ID ranges and it would be inappropriate.

3) Both #1 and #2 because WT and ID provide such a good discriminating
function and use the WG, WT, and ID LDA for demonstration of variable
prediction value.

4) ??? better suggestions.




THANK YOU so much for responding and all of your insight. I'm humbled by
your R skills... that code nearly too me all day to write (little by little
I'm learning).

Chase
Ted.Harding-2 wrote: