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From: info at aghmed.fsnet.co.uk
Sent: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 14:02:12 +0000
To: jsorkin at grecc.umaryland.edu, hb at biostat.ucsf.edu
Subject: Re: [R] please please unsubscribe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dear John
Perhaps you have set your mail client to hide them? Your email certainly
has them when I go Options | View | Headers | All in Thunderbird.
Michael
On 30/11/2014 12:05, John Sorkin wrote:
The headers listed below as being part of the ?raw" email messages are
not seen, at least not in the messages I receive.
John
John David Sorkin M.D., Ph.D.
Professor of Medicine
Chief, Biostatistics and Informatics
University of Maryland School of Medicine Division of Gerontology and
Baltimore VA Medical Center
10 North Greene Street
GRECC (BT/18/GR)
Baltimore, MD 21201-1524
(Phone) 410-605-7119
(Fax) 410-605-7913 (Please call phone number above prior to faxing)
On Nov 29, 2014, at 11:22 PM, Henrik Bengtsson <hb at biostat.ucsf.edu>
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Jeff Newmiller
<jdnewmil at dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
To be fair, Rolf, they have already found difficulty and are trying
to find their way out of this torrent, and impeding their way is not in
anyone's interest.
John: I agree that adding the word "unsubscribe" to the footer would
probably help those lost enough to be mailing the list. The existing web
page does have that word on it, though.
Fabio: I was unaware of the unsubscribe header... looks interesting,
though I would be concerned that it seems like it might bypass the
password protection currently in place, making it susceptible to abuse.
However, there seem to be quite a lot of organizations using it so it
may work better than my initial impression tells me it does.
FYI, if you look at the raw email messages, they all have the
following in the header:
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Main R Mailing List: Primary help" <r-help.r-project.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/options/r-help>,
<mailto:r-help-request at r-project.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/>
List-Post: <mailto:r-help at r-project.org>
List-Help: <mailto:r-help-request at r-project.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help>,
<mailto:r-help-request at r-project.org?subject=subscribe>
Note that "List-Unsubscribe" field
[http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2369.html]. That does not seem to be
enough to have Gmail add a "unsubscribe" button/link (which is indeed
a useful UX feature). Google mention some more requirements in
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/81126#unsub, particularly
"'Precedence: bulk'", which I find on since mailing lists typically
use "list" just as r-help does. I also found a mentioning on "DKIM
key signature" being required
So, not sure how easy it is to enable all this for the list(s) (which
are handled by Mailman).
My $.02
/Henrik
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On November 29, 2014 6:14:11 PM PST, Rolf Turner
<r.turner at auckland.ac.nz> wrote:
On 30/11/14 14:16, John Sorkin wrote:
I don't see a link that is labeled "unsubscribe".
On Nov 29, 2014, at 7:35 PM, Jeff Newmiller
<jdnewmil at dcn.davis.CA.us>
In what way would that be unlike the link that is already there?
On November 29, 2014 4:09:29 PM PST, John Sorkin
<jsorkin at grecc.umaryland.edu> wrote:
Requests like this appear from time to time. Would it make sense
add a link to the bottom of the email messages generated by the
program that is labeled>>> Well, there is no "unsubscribe" page as
such. The link given, i.e.