Age of an object?
Philippe Grosjean wrote:
Martin Maechler wrote:
"Trevor" == Trevor Hastie <hastie at stanford.edu> on Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:51:34 -0800 writes:
Trevor> It would be nice to have a date stamp on an object.
One way to do this with important objects is to use the comment function (in package base) comment(myobj) <- "made last sunday of 2005" Kjetil
Trevor> In S/Splus this was always available, because objects were files.
[are you sure about "always available"?
In any case, objects were not single files anymore for a
long time, at least for S+ on windows, and AFAIK also on
unixy versions recently ]
This topic has come up before.
IIRC, the answer was that for many of us it doesn't make sense
most of the time:
I remember it was discussed several times. I don't remember why it was considered too difficult to do.
If you work with *.R files ('scripts') in order to ensure
reproducibility, you will rerun -- often source() -- these files,
and the age of the script file is really more interesting.
Also, I *always* use the equivalent of q(save = "no") and
almost only use save() to particularly save the results of
expensive computations {often, simulations}.
OK, now let me give examples where having such an information would ease the work greatly: you have a (graphical) view of the content of an object (for instance, the one using the "view" button in R commander), or you have a graphical object explorer that has a cache to speed up display of information about objects in a given workspace (for instance, the SciViews-R object explorer). What a wonderful feature it will be to tell if an object was changed since last query. In the view, one could have a visual clue if it is up-to-date or not. In the object explorer, I could update information only for objects that have changed...
Trevor> I have looked around, but I presume this information is not available. I assume you will get other answers, more useful to you, which will be based on a class of objects which carry an 'creation-time' attribute.
Yes, but that would work only for objects designed that way, and only if the methods that manipulate that object do the required housework to update the 'last-changed' attribute (the question was about last access of an object, not about its creation date, so 'last-changed' is a better attribute here). If you access the object directly with, let's say, myobject at myslot <- newvalue, that attribute is not updated, isn't it? Best, Philippe Grosjean
Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich
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