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random effects using lmer

HughSt <hughsturrock <at> hotmail.com> writes:
This does seem reasonable, although I would probably use
glmer() rather than lmer() for clarity [lmer() automatically
calls glmer() when 'family' is specified]
So you're not doing anything obviously silly.  It seems that
STATA uses gauss-hermite quadrature by default -- glmer uses
Laplace, so you might try something like nAGQ=10 and see if
anything changes.

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