David Winsemius
On Feb 15, 2009, at 2:21 PM, Joe King wrote:
> Ok well heres my data, with the second variable (B variable) being the
> random variable and the other fixed. Although the F values are about
> half of
> what SPSS puts out.
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> My code is anova(lm(dependentrandom~typemusic
> +typemusic*musicselection))
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> This is just dummy data for a class but I am trying to use the data
> I am
> running in SPSS to learn R. I am also in an R class but we are not
> going to
> learn ANOVA.
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>
>
> Joe King, M.A.
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>
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> From: Tal Galili [mailto:tal.galili at gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 10:25 AM
> To: Joe King
> Cc: r-help at r-project.org
> Subject: Re: [R] anova help
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>
> Hi Joe,
>
> you might want to have a look at the nlme package with the lme
> command.
>
> Another option is the more advanced lmer package.
>
>
>
> Lastly, you could have a look at the ?aov command, and notice the
> option of
> using the +Error() term (but that would only work for balanced
> design cases,
> so I've heard, so be aware)
>
>
>
> Tal
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> On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Joe King <jp at joepking.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all, I am trying to run a two factor anova, but one of the
> factors is a
> random factor, now I am also running in SPSS and it seems its
> dividing by
> the wrong term to get the appropriate F term. here is my data. In
> SPSS the F
> scores about double the ones in R, how can I specify one of my
> factors as a
> random factor or change it to where it does the right model fitting?
> I am
> using the lm command instead of glm. I am new to R so this might
> seem basic.
>
>
>
> Joe King, M.A.
> <mailto:jp at joepking.com> jp at joepking.com
>
> "Never give in, never give in, never; never; never; never - in
> nothing,
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> of
> honor and good sense" - Winston Churchill
>
>
>
> "You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something,
> sometime
> in your life." - Winston Churchill
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