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ANOVA 1 too few degrees of freedom

On May 5, 2011, at 23:30 , Rovinpiper wrote:

            
Beware that as you have highly significant effects of plot and its interaction with day, and plot being nested in treatment, you can't test for treatment or treatment:day effect with a systematic effect of plot  and plot:treatment in the model (you are only getting p values because of the sequential computation of the anova table - if you put plot before treatment, you'd get zero df). More likely, you want to make the "plot" terms random, as in ~treatment*day + Error(plot/day)