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why does the unsubscribe not work

4 messages · bry@xdocs.dk, Peter Dalgaard, Martin Maechler +1 more

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bry@xdocs.dk
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Hi I have tried to unsubscribe from this list now three times, I desperately
need to unsubscribe from this list from this address because the list is choking
this mailbox. 
Below are the various suggested ways of unsubscribing
I did the second the first time, I received an email suggesting that I send an
email to that address with unsubscribe in the subject nothing in the body, which
I did, I received a confirmation request from that address and I confirmed,
after confirmation I received a response that I had been unsubscribed.  I
continued to receive email from this list. 
So I went ahead and tried to unsubscribe via the https address, unfortunately it
said that it did not recognize my password, as I write down all my passwords I
doubt I've forgotten it and I am assuming that somewhere in the system I have
been unsubscribed but unfortunately not through the whole system. Anyway I
attempted again via the r-help-request, got the same response and of course the
end result is I am still receiving the emails that are choking my system. 
Yesterday in order to deal with this problem I tried to contact 
r-help-owner at stat.math.ethz.ch
and I have not received a response from him. This might very well be because
this mailbox is getting so damned choken by mail from this list that a number of
emails from other lists etc. are being refused. I am cc'ing him on this email. I
would like someone to get me unsubscribed from this list as I don't think it
very fair that I should have to abandon a mailbox that I have set to receiving
mails from several interesting lists and that I have been using for more than a
year now.
Peter Dalgaard
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bry at xdocs.dk writes:
What are the timeframes involved? There is always some time delay. In
particular, there is no way of stopping mails that have already been
sent by the list handling software. And if your mailbox is clogged,
things may stay in the queue for up to five days before the relevant
mail relay gives up.

If your password has stopped working, it suggests to me that you have
in fact already been unsubscribed.
Martin Maechler
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PD> bry at xdocs.dk writes:

    >> Hi I have tried to unsubscribe from this list now three
    >> times, I desperately need to unsubscribe from this list
    >> from this address because the list is choking this
    >> mailbox.

    >> Below are the various suggested ways of unsubscribing
    >> 
    ..............
    .............. (whining whining ...)
    ..............

    PD> What are the timeframes involved? There is always some time delay. In
    PD> particular, there is no way of stopping mails that have already been
    PD> sent by the list handling software. And if your mailbox is clogged,
    PD> things may stay in the queue for up to five days before the relevant
    PD> mail relay gives up.

    PD> If your password has stopped working, it suggests to me that you have
    PD> in fact already been unsubscribed.

yes, and that's exactly true. He has been unsubscribed when he
wanted it -- and IIRC the confirmation e-mail even tells you
that you may continue to receive mail for a short while after
unsubscribing.

Yes, I ("r-help-owner") have seen your e-mail -- without any
politeness usually seen in letters including no name of sender --
among many other things that I must do or want to complete.  
If "*-owner" was requested to deal with subscription and unsubscriptions
``manually'' each time someone unsubcscribes or subscribes,
this would amount to deal with about 20 such e-mails per day.
I'm usually inclined to reply to polite e-mail letters, but even
then only when more urgent duties have been fulfilled first.
It seems that 99% of all R-help subscribers can deal with the
system themselves.

Regards,
Martin Maechler, ETH Zurich
Adaikalavan Ramasamy
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You can test this suggestion by asking for a password reminder from the
https site. If you do get an email that says what your password is, then
you are still subscribed.

I actually asked the website to send me a password reminder to an
account that is not subscribed. Although it says that "A reminder of
your password has been emailed to you" on the website, the account in
question did not receive any emails. 

Regards, Adai



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