[R-gui] Re: [R] Feedback about SciViews?

From: Don MacQueen [mailto:macq at llnl.gov]

At 5:29 PM +0100 4/30/03, Luke Whitaker wrote:
At the risk of starting a religous war, isn't java the obvious choice
for a platform independent GUI ? I know java suffered a lot from
early over hypeing when it wasn't really ready, but in the last year
or two I've seen some very impressive platform independent GUI's
built with java.
Not unless it's a whole lot better than Insightful's initial 
effort on Solaris.

The GUI itself (i.e., how it operated, what menus were where, etc.) 
was fine, but it was completely useless for anyone sitting at a 
remote host, due to dreadful image quality and poor performance when 
displaying anywhere other than on the console of the machine on which 
SPlus was actually running.

(maybe it was ok displayed on a remote host of the same architecture; 
I don't remember; but neither I nor any of the potential additional 
users was)
AFAIK the problem is the X server: it gives you a black window if the X
display is 16-bit.  If you can live with 8-bit display, the Java GUI will
work.  It's that way on all Unix (X?) platform.

Andy
-Don

just my tuppence worth...

Luke

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"Liaw, Andy" <andy_liaw at merck.com> writes:
The GUI itself (i.e., how it operated, what menus were where, etc.) 
was fine, but it was completely useless for anyone sitting at a 
remote host, due to dreadful image quality and poor performance when 
displaying anywhere other than on the console of the machine on which 
SPlus was actually running.
AFAIK the problem is the X server: it gives you a black window if the X
display is 16-bit.  If you can live with 8-bit display, the Java GUI will
work.  It's that way on all Unix (X?) platform.
I thought Java on Linux would do 8 and 24, but not 16?  (or something
truly weird like that).

But that doesn't address performance issues, which still can be pretty
bad.

best,
-tony
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