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7 messages · Trevor Hastie, (Ted Harding), A.J. Rossini +3 more

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(Ted Harding)
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On 09-Aug-05 Trevor Hastie wrote:
If that were implemented, I would suggest that it should be a third
category of format, "html-digest", say.

Otherwise, people (though I'm not one of them) who choose to receive
R-help in digest form but use text-based mail software will find
their screens cluttered with HTML tags.

It's a good idea, but I think the existing digest format should
also be kept as it is.

Best wishes,
Ted.


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A.J. Rossini
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Trevor -

There's a wonderful feature in gnus (the emacs information (including
mail) reader), that "bursts" digests into subparts for reading (and
hence, easy access). I think there are other similar tools as well for
other mail readers.

best,
-tony
On 8/9/05, Trevor Hastie <hastie at stanford.edu> wrote:

  
    

      
      
    

  


  


      

    

    

      
      

        


  

        

      David Whiting
    

    

      
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A.J. Rossini wrote:

            

      
      
      
    

        
If you are using linux you can use procmail with formail. I used to do
this a long time ago. See, for example:

http://polydistortion.net/doc/procmail-monash.html#digests

It's been a while since I used it so I'm not sure how much tweaking you
would need to do to get the recipe right for you. But once you have it
done you can then use any email client.

  
    

      
      
    

  


  


      

    

    

      
      

        


  

        

      Martin Maechler
    

    

      
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Trevor> Like many, I am sure, I get R-Help in digest
    Trevor> form. Its easy enough to browse the subject lines,
    Trevor> but then if an entry interests you, you have to
    Trevor> embark on this tedious search or scroll to find it.
    Trevor> It would be great to have a "clickable" digest,
    Trevor> where the topics list is a set of pointers, and
    Trevor> clicking on a topic takes you to that entry. I can
    Trevor> think of at least one way to do this via web pages,
    Trevor> but I bet those with more web skills than me can
    Trevor> come up with an elegant solution.

But that has been an option in mailman, the software behind our
mailing lists  --- for ages ---

I'm astonished none of the funny responses would mention this,
and I'm further astonished I have to explain such simple things
to such smart people ;-)

Please open the URL at the end of every message
   https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help
go to the bottom  and "log in"  -- clicking the [Unsubscribe or Edit Options] 
field.  You need your mailing list password sooner or later.
The one you get sent every 1st of the month; or you can have it
sent to you again.

Then you are in a page entitled
     "R-help Membership Configuration for  <foo>@<bar"
Scroll down to the section 
       "Your R-help Subscription"
where the 3rd entry is entitled
      Get MIME or Plain Text Digests?
and now you want MIME.


I hope this helps,
Martin

  
  


  


      

    

    
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On Tuesday 09 August 2005 23:47, Martin Maechler wrote:

            

      
      
      
    

        
I use MIME for digest reading, with KMail under SuSE 9.2. The way I get the 
digest is a list of encapsulated messages. There is, however, a tedious 
things: the encapsulated messages are not numbered...
(so I still have to scroll down to find a particular message, guessing the 
right place where it might be; odd enough, there is no "Find text" inside a 
message in KMail).

If there's any option in KMail to split the digest into threaded messages, I 
couldn't find it. I tried to figure out how to use procmail and formail but 
is too complex for a regular user.

Is it possible to get numbered encapsulated messages?
TIA,
Adrian

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Hi Adrian,

Here's what I used to use for a list I used to subscribe to (it is the
first example in the man page for formail, it worked for me and I never
went further playing with formail):

:0:
* !
* ^TO_expert at linux-mandrake\.com
| formail +1 -ds >>new/expert


Here is a rough summary of what it does:

:0:    (is something to do with file locking (I think))
* !    (I can't remember what this does)
* ^TO_expert at linux-mandrake\.com

^TO_ means the email address is in the To: *or* the CC: header. Note
that you have to escape the dot in the .com bit.

| formail +1 -ds >>new/expert

This pipes the digest to formail, splits the messages and puts them all
into a mailbox called new/expert (in this case).

For you, the recipe might be something like:


:0:
* !
* ^TO_r-help at stat\.math\.ethz\.ch
| formail +1 -ds >>R-undigested



HTH,

Dave

        
Adrian Dusa wrote: