Hello Team, We are, Citi Application Readiness Team, need your assistance in order to gather info about below application compatibility and support for Win 10 as part of Window 10 Readiness initiative. CITI Bank has been using below "FreeWare R Statistical Environment v3.2.2" software products currently on Win 7 operating system. We would like to know whether the below listed application is compatible and supported even for Win 10 (64 Bit) or is there any other higher version of application which would be compatible for Win10. If you have not tested for Win 10, could you please provide us with a tentative date by when we can reach you. Application Name : FreeWare R Statistical Environment v3.2.2 Note: Kindly re-direct this email to appropriate team if we reached you wrongly. Regards, Rohini R Citi Architecture & Technology Engineering Client Computing Direct Phone #:+91 22 3346 1497 Email ID: rohini.ramar at citi.com<mailto:rohini.ramar at citi.com>
Windows 10 Application Compatibility Check | FreeWare R Statistical Environment v3.2.2
5 messages · Ramar, Rohini, Robert Baer, Marc Schwartz +1 more
1 day later
Runs fine on Windows 10 for me.
On 7/25/2016 7:18 AM, Ramar, Rohini wrote:
Hello Team, We are, Citi Application Readiness Team, need your assistance in order to gather info about below application compatibility and support for Win 10 as part of Window 10 Readiness initiative. CITI Bank has been using below "FreeWare R Statistical Environment v3.2.2" software products currently on Win 7 operating system. We would like to know whether the below listed application is compatible and supported even for Win 10 (64 Bit) or is there any other higher version of application which would be compatible for Win10. If you have not tested for Win 10, could you please provide us with a tentative date by when we can reach you. Application Name : FreeWare R Statistical Environment v3.2.2 Note: Kindly re-direct this email to appropriate team if we reached you wrongly. Regards, Rohini R Citi Architecture & Technology Engineering Client Computing Direct Phone #:+91 22 3346 1497 Email ID: rohini.ramar at citi.com<mailto:rohini.ramar at citi.com> [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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When I first graduated some 50 years ago I worked in the Department of Finance. On small piece of my work involved getting CPI data from the CSO and doing some calculations. A specific person in the CSO (Central Statistics Office) usually supplied this information and this fact was always recorded on the file. On one occasion I could not contact that person and I visited the department library and extracted the information myself. When my boss saw that I had not contacted the CSO I was instructed to contact them and repeat the calculation. It was explained to me that if I contacted the CSO we could blame someone outside the Department of Finance if they supplied the information. It appears that Citi Architecture & Technology Engineering are behaving in a similar way. Are they trying to find some excuse to deny their users access to R on the grounds that it is not "properly" supported. This does happen in large organisations. If any one knows of some organisation that is willing to provide support to Citi (for a respectable fee) there might be a bit of money to be made. John C Frain 3 Aranleigh Park Rathfarnham Dublin 14 Ireland www.tcd.ie/Economics/staff/frainj/home.html mailto:frainj at tcd.ie mailto:frainj at gmail.com
On 26 July 2016 at 23:49, Robert Baer <rbaer at atsu.edu> wrote:
Runs fine on Windows 10 for me. On 7/25/2016 7:18 AM, Ramar, Rohini wrote:
Hello Team,
We are, Citi Application Readiness Team, need your assistance in order to
gather info about below application compatibility and support for Win 10 as
part of Window 10 Readiness initiative. CITI Bank has been using below
"FreeWare R Statistical Environment v3.2.2" software products currently on
Win 7 operating system.
We would like to know whether the below listed application is compatible
and supported even for Win 10 (64 Bit) or is there any other higher version
of application which would be compatible for Win10. If you have not tested
for Win 10, could you please provide us with a tentative date by when we
can reach you.
Application Name : FreeWare R Statistical Environment v3.2.2
Note: Kindly re-direct this email to appropriate team if we reached you
wrongly.
Regards,
Rohini R
Citi Architecture & Technology Engineering
Client Computing
Direct Phone #:+91 22 3346 1497
Email ID: rohini.ramar at citi.com<mailto:rohini.ramar at citi.com>
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Hi, With the caveat that I speak for myself only, a few comments: 1. Given that Citi appears to have been running R on Windows 7 for some period of time, I am not sure that they are looking for reasons to deny users access to R. They are simply looking for some indication that R will run on Windows 10. 2. There is nothing presently in the relevant R for Windows FAQ: https://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/rw-FAQ.html#Does-R-run-under-Windows-Vista_003f that explicitly indicates that R will run on Windows 10. At some point, presumably, that would be updated to reflect more recent experience by R Core. 3. Besides Robert's comment below on his experience (n of 1), there are other comments that I see via a Google search that would suggest that his experience is not unique (e.g. https://rpubs.com/kartykr/rrproject) and there are threads in the R-Help archives from last September: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2015-September/431809.html https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2015-September/431825.html that also support the notion that R will run on Windows 10. 4. If Citi, wants to pursue a more "commercial-like" approach to paid support for R, there are commercial versions of R available, which I shall not mention here, but a quick Google search would avail them of more details. 5. Lastly and perhaps most importantly, R is not Freeware. R (as made available by the R Foundation) is free open source software (FOSS) and is distributed under relevant open source licenses. The label "Freeware", which typically refers to proprietary software, only means that the binary application itself is free of charge. It does not mean that the source code for the application is also available. There is a very large functional and philosophical difference between FOSS and Freeware. Regards, Marc Schwartz
On Jul 27, 2016, at 9:47 AM, John C Frain <frainj at gmail.com> wrote: When I first graduated some 50 years ago I worked in the Department of Finance. On small piece of my work involved getting CPI data from the CSO and doing some calculations. A specific person in the CSO (Central Statistics Office) usually supplied this information and this fact was always recorded on the file. On one occasion I could not contact that person and I visited the department library and extracted the information myself. When my boss saw that I had not contacted the CSO I was instructed to contact them and repeat the calculation. It was explained to me that if I contacted the CSO we could blame someone outside the Department of Finance if they supplied the information. It appears that Citi Architecture & Technology Engineering are behaving in a similar way. Are they trying to find some excuse to deny their users access to R on the grounds that it is not "properly" supported. This does happen in large organisations. If any one knows of some organisation that is willing to provide support to Citi (for a respectable fee) there might be a bit of money to be made. John C Frain 3 Aranleigh Park Rathfarnham Dublin 14 Ireland www.tcd.ie/Economics/staff/frainj/home.html mailto:frainj at tcd.ie mailto:frainj at gmail.com On 26 July 2016 at 23:49, Robert Baer <rbaer at atsu.edu> wrote:
Runs fine on Windows 10 for me. On 7/25/2016 7:18 AM, Ramar, Rohini wrote:
Hello Team, We are, Citi Application Readiness Team, need your assistance in order to gather info about below application compatibility and support for Win 10 as part of Window 10 Readiness initiative. CITI Bank has been using below "FreeWare R Statistical Environment v3.2.2" software products currently on Win 7 operating system. We would like to know whether the below listed application is compatible and supported even for Win 10 (64 Bit) or is there any other higher version of application which would be compatible for Win10. If you have not tested for Win 10, could you please provide us with a tentative date by when we can reach you. Application Name : FreeWare R Statistical Environment v3.2.2 Note: Kindly re-direct this email to appropriate team if we reached you wrongly. Regards, Rohini R Citi Architecture & Technology Engineering Client Computing Direct Phone #:+91 22 3346 1497 Email ID: rohini.ramar at citi.com<mailto:rohini.ramar at citi.com>
Sorry if my earlier remarks were unfair to City but their request reminded me of some problems that I had with using R, similar software and the obstacles placed in my way by an IT Department many years ago. If it is of any help I have R installed on a Desktop and two laptops (running 64-bit Windows 10) and one very modest Tablet (running 32-bit Windows 10). Perhaps I have been lucky as I have not encountered any problems. Rstudio clearly supports Windows 10 (See supported packages on https://www.rstudio.com/products/rstudio/download2/). Microsoft have "Microsoft R Open" (formerly Revolution R) available at https://mran.revolutionanalytics.com/. These are based on a fixed CRAN repository date. The version available there is said to be compatible with Windows 7.0 (SP1), 8.1, 10 and Windows Server? 2008 R2 (SP1), 2012 (64-bit versions only). John C Frain 3 Aranleigh Park Rathfarnham Dublin 14 Ireland www.tcd.ie/Economics/staff/frainj/home.html mailto:frainj at tcd.ie mailto:frainj at gmail.com
On 27 July 2016 at 17:09, Marc Schwartz <marc_schwartz at me.com> wrote:
Hi, With the caveat that I speak for myself only, a few comments: 1. Given that Citi appears to have been running R on Windows 7 for some period of time, I am not sure that they are looking for reasons to deny users access to R. They are simply looking for some indication that R will run on Windows 10. 2. There is nothing presently in the relevant R for Windows FAQ: https://cran.r-project.org/bin/windows/base/rw-FAQ.html#Does-R-run-under-Windows-Vista_003f that explicitly indicates that R will run on Windows 10. At some point, presumably, that would be updated to reflect more recent experience by R Core. 3. Besides Robert's comment below on his experience (n of 1), there are other comments that I see via a Google search that would suggest that his experience is not unique (e.g. https://rpubs.com/kartykr/rrproject) and there are threads in the R-Help archives from last September: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2015-September/431809.html https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2015-September/431825.html that also support the notion that R will run on Windows 10. 4. If Citi, wants to pursue a more "commercial-like" approach to paid support for R, there are commercial versions of R available, which I shall not mention here, but a quick Google search would avail them of more details. 5. Lastly and perhaps most importantly, R is not Freeware. R (as made available by the R Foundation) is free open source software (FOSS) and is distributed under relevant open source licenses. The label "Freeware", which typically refers to proprietary software, only means that the binary application itself is free of charge. It does not mean that the source code for the application is also available. There is a very large functional and philosophical difference between FOSS and Freeware. Regards, Marc Schwartz
On Jul 27, 2016, at 9:47 AM, John C Frain <frainj at gmail.com> wrote: When I first graduated some 50 years ago I worked in the Department of Finance. On small piece of my work involved getting CPI data from the CSO and doing some calculations. A specific person in the CSO (Central Statistics Office) usually supplied this information and this fact was always recorded on the file. On one occasion I could not contact that person and I visited the department library and extracted the information myself. When my boss saw that I had not contacted the CSO I was
instructed
to contact them and repeat the calculation. It was explained to me that
if
I contacted the CSO we could blame someone outside the Department of Finance if they supplied the information. It appears that Citi Architecture & Technology Engineering are behaving
in
a similar way. Are they trying to find some excuse to deny their users access to R on the grounds that it is not "properly" supported. This does happen in large organisations. If any one knows of some organisation that is willing to provide support
to
Citi (for a respectable fee) there might be a bit of money to be made. John C Frain 3 Aranleigh Park Rathfarnham Dublin 14 Ireland www.tcd.ie/Economics/staff/frainj/home.html mailto:frainj at tcd.ie mailto:frainj at gmail.com On 26 July 2016 at 23:49, Robert Baer <rbaer at atsu.edu> wrote:
Runs fine on Windows 10 for me. On 7/25/2016 7:18 AM, Ramar, Rohini wrote:
Hello Team, We are, Citi Application Readiness Team, need your assistance in order
to
gather info about below application compatibility and support for Win
10 as
part of Window 10 Readiness initiative. CITI Bank has been using below "FreeWare R Statistical Environment v3.2.2" software products
currently on
Win 7 operating system. We would like to know whether the below listed application is
compatible
and supported even for Win 10 (64 Bit) or is there any other higher
version
of application which would be compatible for Win10. If you have not
tested
for Win 10, could you please provide us with a tentative date by when
we
can reach you. Application Name : FreeWare R Statistical Environment v3.2.2 Note: Kindly re-direct this email to appropriate team if we reached you wrongly. Regards, Rohini R Citi Architecture & Technology Engineering Client Computing Direct Phone #:+91 22 3346 1497 Email ID: rohini.ramar at citi.com<mailto:rohini.ramar at citi.com>