Sorry for the probable repeat post but I can only search the list up to 2002 (is there a better way?). I am using the RH9 RPM from CRAN but packages like AnalyzeFMRI say that tcltk is not found. Do I need to do more to get Tk GUIs working on RH9 or does the RPM not have tcltk support built in (should I compile from source). Thanks in advance. Take care. -Morgan
Does the RPM for RH9 know about TCL/Tk
6 messages · Morgan Hough, Jonathan Baron, Martin Maechler +2 more
On 06/10/03 18:30, Morgan Hough wrote:
Sorry for the probable repeat post but I can only search the list up to 2002 (is there a better way?).
Yes, see my search page below.
I am using the RH9 RPM from CRAN but packages like AnalyzeFMRI say that tcltk is not found. Do I need to do more to get Tk GUIs working on RH9 or does the RPM not have tcltk support built in (should I compile from source). Thanks in advance.
There was in fact some discussion of this last month. I am not sure of the answer. But I installed 1.7.0 from the RPM for RH 9, and I got the same error message when trying to get Rcmdr to work. I did have tcl and tk installed. Unfortunately, I did not do a properly controlled experiment. I first installed tcllib, which was not installed originally. (That didn't help, by itself.) Then I re-installed R _from source_ and then everything worked. But I did have the basic vanilla installation of RH 9, and I did have this problem. So you aren't the only one. I still don't know whether tcllib is necessary, and whether the RPM itself installs different things depending on what is on the system. (I would assume not, but I'm not sure.)
Jonathan Baron, Professor of Psychology, University of Pennsylvania R page: http://finzi.psych.upenn.edu/
"Morgan" == Morgan Hough <mhough at itsa.ucsf.edu>
on Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:30:07 -0700 (PDT) writes:
Morgan> Sorry for the probable repeat post but I can only search the list up to
Morgan> 2002 (is there a better way?).
many better ones. Jonathan Baron's (as he said); Robert King's
also (from, but
The automatic archives
https://www.stat.math.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/
can be reached from the official mailing list web page.
It's address is always the very last line of every message on
this list .. (!) ..
But, yes, there's text on http://www.r-project.org/mail.html
which mentions the unformatted monthly archives at (mirrors of)
http://cran.r-project.org/doc/mail-archives/
and these are definitely not kept up-to-date from some reason.
Martin
Jonathan Baron <baron at psych.upenn.edu> writes:
On 06/10/03 18:30, Morgan Hough wrote:
Sorry for the probable repeat post but I can only search the list up to 2002 (is there a better way?).
Yes, see my search page below.
I am using the RH9 RPM from CRAN but packages like AnalyzeFMRI say that tcltk is not found. Do I need to do more to get Tk GUIs working on RH9 or does the RPM not have tcltk support built in (should I compile from source). Thanks in advance.
There was in fact some discussion of this last month. I am not sure of the answer. But I installed 1.7.0 from the RPM for RH 9, and I got the same error message when trying to get Rcmdr to work. I did have tcl and tk installed. Unfortunately, I did not do a properly controlled experiment. I first installed tcllib, which was not installed originally. (That didn't help, by itself.) Then I re-installed R _from source_ and then everything worked. But I did have the basic vanilla installation of RH 9, and I did have this problem. So you aren't the only one. I still don't know whether tcllib is necessary, and whether the RPM itself installs different things depending on what is on the system. (I would assume not, but I'm not sure.)
It shouldn't, but the RPM may be different depending on what was present on the system upon which it was built. Martyn may have been building on a system where tcl/tk wasn't installed, or -- there's a bug report on bugzilla.redhat.com on this -- the build was adversely affected by incorrectness of the tclConfig.sh and tkConfig.sh scripts. A fairly easy experiment would be to rebuild from the source RPM on your own system. Since this builds an RPM, it will retain the upgradability etc. of the "official" RPM. Could you try and tell us whether the problem remains? (Don't forget that you need a bunch of "-devel" packages installed.)
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On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 12:10, Peter Dalgaard BSA wrote:
Jonathan Baron <baron at psych.upenn.edu> writes:
On 06/10/03 18:30, Morgan Hough wrote:
Sorry for the probable repeat post but I can only search the list up to 2002 (is there a better way?).
Yes, see my search page below.
I am using the RH9 RPM from CRAN but packages like AnalyzeFMRI say that tcltk is not found. Do I need to do more to get Tk GUIs working on RH9 or does the RPM not have tcltk support built in (should I compile from source). Thanks in advance.
There was in fact some discussion of this last month. I am not sure of the answer. But I installed 1.7.0 from the RPM for RH 9, and I got the same error message when trying to get Rcmdr to work. I did have tcl and tk installed. Unfortunately, I did not do a properly controlled experiment. I first installed tcllib, which was not installed originally. (That didn't help, by itself.) Then I re-installed R _from source_ and then everything worked. But I did have the basic vanilla installation of RH 9, and I did have this problem. So you aren't the only one. I still don't know whether tcllib is necessary, and whether the RPM itself installs different things depending on what is on the system. (I would assume not, but I'm not sure.)
It shouldn't, but the RPM may be different depending on what was present on the system upon which it was built. Martyn may have been building on a system where tcl/tk wasn't installed, or -- there's a bug report on bugzilla.redhat.com on this -- the build was adversely affected by incorrectness of the tclConfig.sh and tkConfig.sh scripts. A fairly easy experiment would be to rebuild from the source RPM on your own system. Since this builds an RPM, it will retain the upgradability etc. of the "official" RPM. Could you try and tell us whether the problem remains? (Don't forget that you need a bunch of "-devel" packages installed.)
It seems that the R RPM for Red Hat 9 has been built without support for tcltk. I am fairly sure that I installed the required packages on my build machine, but I can't confirm this right now because it is at home. I will look into it. I shall be taking up Brian's suggestion of posting the configure script summary along with the RPMs so that people can see what capabilities are built in. Martyn
On Wed, 2003-06-11 at 12:10, Peter Dalgaard BSA wrote:
Jonathan Baron <baron at psych.upenn.edu> writes:
On 06/10/03 18:30, Morgan Hough wrote:
Sorry for the probable repeat post but I can only search the list up to 2002 (is there a better way?).
Yes, see my search page below.
I am using the RH9 RPM from CRAN but packages like AnalyzeFMRI say that tcltk is not found. Do I need to do more to get Tk GUIs working on RH9 or does the RPM not have tcltk support built in (should I compile from source). Thanks in advance.
There was in fact some discussion of this last month. I am not sure of the answer. But I installed 1.7.0 from the RPM for RH 9, and I got the same error message when trying to get Rcmdr to work. I did have tcl and tk installed. Unfortunately, I did not do a properly controlled experiment. I first installed tcllib, which was not installed originally. (That didn't help, by itself.) Then I re-installed R _from source_ and then everything worked. But I did have the basic vanilla installation of RH 9, and I did have this problem. So you aren't the only one. I still don't know whether tcllib is necessary, and whether the RPM itself installs different things depending on what is on the system. (I would assume not, but I'm not sure.)
It shouldn't, but the RPM may be different depending on what was present on the system upon which it was built. Martyn may have been building on a system where tcl/tk wasn't installed, or -- there's a bug report on bugzilla.redhat.com on this -- the build was adversely affected by incorrectness of the tclConfig.sh and tkConfig.sh scripts. A fairly easy experiment would be to rebuild from the source RPM on your own system. Since this builds an RPM, it will retain the upgradability etc. of the "official" RPM. Could you try and tell us whether the problem remains? (Don't forget that you need a bunch of "-devel" packages installed.)
I have rebuilt the RPM of R 1.7.0 for Red Hat 9 with tcltk support. (R-1.7.0-2.i386.rpm). It should be available on CRAN in a day or two. I apologise for this oversight. Martyn