I am completely new to R and am trying to utilize its capabilities as an alternative to Minitab. I don't have any development ability at all, but the R Commander GUI is able to give me the functionality I need with the exception of control charts. I have installed the qcc package but when I load the package nothing happens (it does not give me any more functionality or selection choices in Rcmdr). I am sure there is something relatively simple that I am missing, but I can't figure it out. Any help would be greatly appreciated! -Greg -- View this message in context: http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/R-Commander-qcc-tp4707327.html Sent from the R help mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
R Commander qcc
4 messages · Greg K, John Kane, John Fox
Welcome to R and the R-help list. If I am not misunderstanding you, you expect use the qcc package from within the Rcmdr GUI. I have never really used RCommander, though I played around with it a few years ago, but I don't believe it can call qcc directly. I 'think' you have the choice of using qcc from a command line interface or possibly installing a plug-in for Rcmder. Have a look at this link http://decisionstats.com/2011/01/27/r-commander-plugins-20-and-growing/ BTW you might also be interested in this link http://blog.yhathq.com/posts/quality-control-in-r.html for other approaches to control charts. While a good Gui like Rcmdr is useful you really will not get the full power of R with a Gui. It can be a bit intimidating to use a command interface if you are not used to one but it is by far the best way. It may not seem it but it is much more efficient in the longer term to go to a command-line interface. There is also the issue of whether there is an integration for the package and your Gui. Luckily, it looks like there is a Rcmdr plugin for qcc but there are probably 100's, or more likely, 1000's of packages with such a plug-in and you cannot capitalize on them other than with a command-line approach. You can use R by typing commands into the R-GUI (assuming you are using Windows) or by typing in the terminal under Linux but this does not work well. Most/all R users do all their writing in a text editor or Integrated Development Environment (IDE). There are some fierce wars over which editor or IDE is best. Here are a couple of links about the issue. Text Editors and IDEs http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/Best-R-text-editors-td903450.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_%28programming_language%29#Editors_and_IDEs . It's worth shopping around to see what best suits you. I have found Tinn-R very good when working in Windows though, recently, I have moved to Linux and to the IDE, RStudio and the gedit text editor with its R plug-in. A major advantage of Tinn-R and gedit , particularly if you are just getting started, is that they both have extensive code highlighting which makes it easier to find and fix minor syntax errors and typos. RStudio has several advantages, among other things, it shows what data objects you have loaded and makes saving and handling graphs easier . BW one of the obvious things I missed when first using R was that you can just copy and paste code into R if you are working through an example to see what is happening John Kane Kingston ON Canada
-----Original Message----- From: gjkruse at gmail.com Sent: Sat, 16 May 2015 15:39:12 -0700 (PDT) To: r-help at r-project.org Subject: [R] R Commander qcc I am completely new to R and am trying to utilize its capabilities as an alternative to Minitab. I don't have any development ability at all, but the R Commander GUI is able to give me the functionality I need with the exception of control charts. I have installed the qcc package but when I load the package nothing happens (it does not give me any more functionality or selection choices in Rcmdr). I am sure there is something relatively simple that I am missing, but I can't figure it out. Any help would be greatly appreciated! -Greg
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Dear John and Greg, As John says, even with the about 40 plugin packages that are on CRAN (the R package archive network), the Rcmdr covers only a small fraction of what's available in base R and the thousands of CRAN packages. As it turns out, however, there's an Rcmdr quality-control plugin that may meet Greg's needs, RcmdrPlugin.qual <http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/RcmdrPlugin.qual/index.html>. You might check that out. Install it via the command install.packages("RcmdrPlugin.qual") at the R > command prompt, and then either load it via the Rcmdr Tools menu or directly via library(RcmdrPlugin.qual). More generally, the names of most Rcmdr plugins begin with "RcmdrPlugin.". If you go to the alphbetical CRAN packages list at <http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/available_packages_by_name.html> and search for "RcmdrPlugin.", you'll see them. Searching for "Rcmdr" will turn up a few more. I hope this helps, John ------------------------------------------------ John Fox, Professor McMaster University Hamilton, Ontario, Canada http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/ On Sun, 17 May 2015 02:51:30 -0800
John Kane <jrkrideau at inbox.com> wrote:
Welcome to R and the R-help list. If I am not misunderstanding you, you expect use the qcc package from within the Rcmdr GUI. I have never really used RCommander, though I played around with it a few years ago, but I don't believe it can call qcc directly. I 'think' you have the choice of using qcc from a command line interface or possibly installing a plug-in for Rcmder. Have a look at this link http://decisionstats.com/2011/01/27/r-commander-plugins-20-and-growing/ BTW you might also be interested in this link http://blog.yhathq.com/posts/quality-control-in-r.html for other approaches to control charts. While a good Gui like Rcmdr is useful you really will not get the full power of R with a Gui. It can be a bit intimidating to use a command interface if you are not used to one but it is by far the best way. It may not seem it but it is much more efficient in the longer term to go to a command-line interface. There is also the issue of whether there is an integration for the package and your Gui. Luckily, it looks like there is a Rcmdr plugin for qcc but there are probably 100's, or more likely, 1000's of packages with such a plug-in and you cannot capitalize on them other than with a command-line approach. You can use R by typing commands into the R-GUI (assuming you are using Windows) or by typing in the terminal under Linux but this does not work well. Most/all R users do all their writing in a text editor or Integrated Development Environment (IDE). There are some fierce wars over which editor or IDE is best. Here are a couple of links about the issue. Text Editors and IDEs http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/Best-R-text-editors-td903450.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_%28programming_language%29#Editors_and_IDEs . It's worth shopping around to see what best suits you. I have found Tinn-R very good when working in Windows though, recently, I have moved to Linux and to the IDE, RStudio and the gedit text editor with its R plug-in. A major advantage of Tinn-R and gedit , particularly if you are just getting started, is that they both have extensive code highlighting which makes it easier to find and fix minor syntax errors and typos. RStudio has several advantages, among other things, it shows what data objects you have loaded and makes saving and handling graphs easier . BW one of the obvious things I missed when first using R was that you can just copy and paste code into R if you are working through an example to see what is happening John Kane Kingston ON Canada
-----Original Message----- From: gjkruse at gmail.com Sent: Sat, 16 May 2015 15:39:12 -0700 (PDT) To: r-help at r-project.org Subject: [R] R Commander qcc I am completely new to R and am trying to utilize its capabilities as an alternative to Minitab. I don't have any development ability at all, but the R Commander GUI is able to give me the functionality I need with the exception of control charts. I have installed the qcc package but when I load the package nothing happens (it does not give me any more functionality or selection choices in Rcmdr). I am sure there is something relatively simple that I am missing, but I can't figure it out. Any help would be greatly appreciated! -Greg
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Thanks John, I had not realised they were on CRAN. Definately a great help. John Kane Kingston ON Canada
-----Original Message----- From: jfox at mcmaster.ca Sent: Sun, 17 May 2015 08:15:14 -0400 To: jrkrideau at inbox.com, gjkruse at gmail.com Subject: Re: [R] R Commander qcc Dear John and Greg, As John says, even with the about 40 plugin packages that are on CRAN (the R package archive network), the Rcmdr covers only a small fraction of what's available in base R and the thousands of CRAN packages. As it turns out, however, there's an Rcmdr quality-control plugin that may meet Greg's needs, RcmdrPlugin.qual <http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/RcmdrPlugin.qual/index.html>. You might check that out. Install it via the command install.packages("RcmdrPlugin.qual") at the R > command prompt, and then either load it via the Rcmdr Tools menu or directly via library(RcmdrPlugin.qual). More generally, the names of most Rcmdr plugins begin with "RcmdrPlugin.". If you go to the alphbetical CRAN packages list at <http://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/available_packages_by_name.html> and search for "RcmdrPlugin.", you'll see them. Searching for "Rcmdr" will turn up a few more. I hope this helps, John ------------------------------------------------ John Fox, Professor McMaster University Hamilton, Ontario, Canada http://socserv.mcmaster.ca/jfox/ On Sun, 17 May 2015 02:51:30 -0800 John Kane <jrkrideau at inbox.com> wrote:
Welcome to R and the R-help list. If I am not misunderstanding you, you expect use the qcc package from within the Rcmdr GUI. I have never really used RCommander, though I played around with it a few years ago, but I don't believe it can call qcc directly. I 'think' you have the choice of using qcc from a command line interface or possibly installing a plug-in for Rcmder. Have a look at this link http://decisionstats.com/2011/01/27/r-commander-plugins-20-and-growing/ BTW you might also be interested in this link http://blog.yhathq.com/posts/quality-control-in-r.html for other approaches to control charts. While a good Gui like Rcmdr is useful you really will not get the full power of R with a Gui. It can be a bit intimidating to use a command interface if you are not used to one but it is by far the best way. It may not seem it but it is much more efficient in the longer term to go to a command-line interface. There is also the issue of whether there is an integration for the package and your Gui. Luckily, it looks like there is a Rcmdr plugin for qcc but there are probably 100's, or more likely, 1000's of packages with such a plug-in and you cannot capitalize on them other than with a command-line approach. You can use R by typing commands into the R-GUI (assuming you are using Windows) or by typing in the terminal under Linux but this does not work well. Most/all R users do all their writing in a text editor or Integrated Development Environment (IDE). There are some fierce wars over which editor or IDE is best. Here are a couple of links about the issue. Text Editors and IDEs http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/Best-R-text-editors-td903450.html and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_%28programming_language%29#Editors_and_IDEs
. It's worth shopping around to see what best suits you. I have found Tinn-R very good when working in Windows though, recently, I have moved to Linux and to the IDE, RStudio and the gedit text editor with its R plug-in. A major advantage of Tinn-R and gedit , particularly if you are just getting started, is that they both have extensive code highlighting which makes it easier to find and fix minor syntax errors and typos. RStudio has several advantages, among other things, it shows what data objects you have loaded and makes saving and handling graphs easier . BW one of the obvious things I missed when first using R was that you can just copy and paste code into R if you are working through an example to see what is happening John Kane Kingston ON Canada
-----Original Message----- From: gjkruse at gmail.com Sent: Sat, 16 May 2015 15:39:12 -0700 (PDT) To: r-help at r-project.org Subject: [R] R Commander qcc I am completely new to R and am trying to utilize its capabilities as an alternative to Minitab. I don't have any development ability at all, but the R Commander GUI is able to give me the functionality I need with the exception of control charts. I have installed the qcc package but when I load the package nothing happens (it does not give me any more functionality or selection choices in Rcmdr). I am sure there is something relatively simple that I am missing, but I can't figure it out. Any help would be greatly appreciated! -Greg
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