Dear useRs, With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops" I am tempted to get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel with respect to R. Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on? Many thanks, Bernd
R on netbooks et al?
12 messages · Bernd Dittmann, Philipp Pagel, Erik Iverson +8 more
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:47:25AM +0000, herrdittmann at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops" I am tempted to get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel with respect to R. Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on?
I have R on my ASUS eeePC 1000H under Debian Linux and it works just fine. In my opinion the most limiting thing is the small keyboard. Everything else (RAM, Screen, CPU power) is what you would expect given the specs: Not the platform of choice for large-scale number crunching or writing elaborate programs but certainly good enough to do a little work on the train/plane/hotel/... cu Philipp
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I've installed Ubuntu, Emacs, and R on my Samsung NC10 with 2 GB RAM. I think the keyboard is very usable on the NC10, and it has about 5-7 hours of battery life, which is also nice. R runs just fine on it. I'd consider paying extra for the Samsung just for the keyboard.
herrdittmann at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Dear useRs, With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops" I am tempted to get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel with respect to R. Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on? Many thanks, Bernd
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I use it on an ASUS EEE 701 PC! It works with some limitation, because this model have only 512mb of RAM. But it is working fine. The OS is Windows XP.
I think that the better netbooks is one from HP, this netbook have an normal keyboard.
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De: r-help-bounces at r-project.org [mailto:r-help-bounces at r-project.org] Em nome de Erik Iverson
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 5 de mar?o de 2009 11:03
Para: herrdittmann at yahoo.co.uk
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Assunto: Re: [R] R on netbooks et al?
I've installed Ubuntu, Emacs, and R on my Samsung NC10 with 2 GB RAM. I think
the keyboard is very usable on the NC10, and it has about 5-7 hours of battery
life, which is also nice. R runs just fine on it. I'd consider paying extra
for the Samsung just for the keyboard.
herrdittmann at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Dear useRs, With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops" I am tempted to get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel with respect to R. Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on? Many thanks, Bernd
______________________________________________ R-help at r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
______________________________________________ R-help at r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
I'm having similar experiences on my Acer Aspire One. Everything will work good. Only thing that takes a lot of time is compiling R if you are in the habit of doing so.
herrdittmann at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Dear useRs, With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops" I am tempted to get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel with respect to R. Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on? Many thanks, Bernd
______________________________________________ R-help at r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, minimal, self-contained, reproducible code.
Leandro Marino wrote:
I use it on an ASUS EEE 701 PC! It works with some limitation, because this model have only 512mb of RAM. But it is working fine. The OS is Windows XP.
Ditto, except that I put Ubuntu Eee on my 701. (Since renamed "Easy Peasy".... http://www.geteasypeasy.com/) A nice thing about using Ubuntu is that R and a lot of common R packages are in the standard repositories. Start with "apt-get install r-cran-base", and work from there with packages discovered via "apt-cache search r-cran". Only thing I wish is that they'd update to R 2.8.1...the repository still only has 2.7.2.
May I ask what is the OS? Thanks. 2009/3/5 Erik Iverson <iverson at biostat.wisc.edu>:
I've installed Ubuntu, Emacs, and R on my Samsung NC10 with 2 GB RAM. ?I think the keyboard is very usable on the NC10, and it has about 5-7 hours of battery life, which is also nice. ?R runs just fine on it. ?I'd consider paying extra for the Samsung just for the keyboard. herrdittmann at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Dear useRs, With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops" I am tempted to get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel with respect to R. Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on? Many thanks, Bernd
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chaogai <chaogai at xs4all.nl> [Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 07:04:19PM CET]:
I'm having similar experiences on my Acer Aspire One. Everything will work good. Only thing that takes a lot of time is compiling R if you are in the habit of doing so.
On the Fedora version that came with my Acer Aspire One, I am even thinking of compiling R itself as the current R version is 2.6.0 ... Otherwise, everything seems fine and the keyboard is indeed the greatest letdown so far (the tiny left mouse button a close second).
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chaogai <chaogai at xs4all.nl> [Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 07:04:19PM CET]:
I'm having similar experiences on my Acer Aspire One. Everything will
work good. Only thing that takes a lot of time is compiling R if you are
in the habit of doing so.
On the Fedora version that came with my Acer Aspire One, I am even thinking of compiling R itself as the current R version is 2.6.0 ... Otherwise, everything seems fine and the keyboard is indeed the greatest letdown so far (the tiny left mouse button a close second).
I did do that. Most practical is to get the R-devel from the repositories. It is the wrong version, will bring what you need to build regarding other dependencies. Then remove R-devel and you can get your 2.8.1 sources from CRAN. Not sure about the exact names of the things. Now happy on Suse 11.1 after a brief fling with the Fedora 10.
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At 08:47 05/03/2009, herrdittmann at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Dear useRs, With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops" I am tempted to get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel with respect to R. Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on?
One issue is whether you wish to use Linux or Windows. If you do use Linux I would advise picking a netbook with one of the standard distributions. The early EEE PC had Xandros and dire warnings about using the Debian repositiories. In fact I had no problem despite a total lack of experience although I am not sure what will happy with the recent move to lenny.
Many thanks, Bernd
Michael Dewey http://www.aghmed.fsnet.co.uk
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Michael Dewey <info at aghmed.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
At 08:47 05/03/2009, herrdittmann at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Dear useRs, With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops" I am tempted to get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel with respect to R. Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on?
One issue is whether you wish to use Linux or Windows. If you do use Linux I would advise picking a netbook with one of the standard distributions. The early EEE PC had Xandros and dire warnings about using the Debian repositiories. In fact I had no problem despite a total lack of experience although I am not sure what will happy with the recent move to lenny.
Because I have used Debian Linux and Debian-based distributions like Ubuntu for many years, I installed a eee-specific version of Ubuntu within a day or two of getting an ASUS eee pc1000. There are currently at least two versions of Ubuntu, "easy peasy" and eeebuntu, that are specific to the eee pc models. I started with "easy peasy" at the time it was called something else (Ubuntu eee?) and later switched to eeebuntu. In both cases packages for the latest versions of R from the Ubuntu package repository on CRAN worked flawlessly. I find the netbook to be very convenient. Having a 5 hour battery life and a weight of less than 3 pounds is wonderful. I teach all of my classes with it and even use it at home (attached to a monitor, USB keyboard and mouse and an external hard drive) in lieu of a desktop computer. (I have been eyeing the "eee box" covetously but have not yet convinced myself that I really need yet another computer). I develop R packages on it and don't really notice that it is "under-powered" by today's standards. Of course, when I started computing and even when I started working with the S language the memory capacity of computers was measured in kilobytes so the thought of "only" 1Gb of memory doesn't cause me to shriek in horror.
On 08-Mar-09 17:44:18, Douglas Bates wrote:
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Michael Dewey <info at aghmed.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
At 08:47 05/03/2009, herrdittmann at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Dear useRs, With the rise of netbooks and 'lifestyle laptops" I am tempted to get one of these to mainly run R on it. Processor power and hard disk space seem to be ok. What I wonder is the handling and feel with respect to R. Has anyone here installed or is running R on one of these, and if so, what is your experience? Would it be more of a nice looking gadget than a feasable platform to do some stats on?
One issue is whether you wish to use Linux or Windows. If you do use Linux I would advise picking a netbook with one of the standard distributions. The early EEE PC had Xandros and dire warnings about using the Debian repositiories. In fact I had no problem despite a total lack of experience although I am not sure what will happy with the recent move to lenny.
Because I have used Debian Linux and Debian-based distributions like Ubuntu for many years, I installed a eee-specific version of Ubuntu within a day or two of getting an ASUS eee pc1000. There are currently at least two versions of Ubuntu, "easy peasy" and eeebuntu, that are specific to the eee pc models. I started with "easy peasy" at the time it was called something else (Ubuntu eee?) and later switched to eeebuntu. In both cases packages for the latest versions of R from the Ubuntu package repository on CRAN worked flawlessly. I find the netbook to be very convenient. Having a 5 hour battery life and a weight of less than 3 pounds is wonderful. I teach all of my classes with it and even use it at home (attached to a monitor, USB keyboard and mouse and an external hard drive) in lieu of a desktop computer. (I have been eyeing the "eee box" covetously but have not yet convinced myself that I really need yet another computer). I develop R packages on it and don't really notice that it is "under-powered" by today's standards. Of course, when I started computing and even when I started working with the S language the memory capacity of computers was measured in kilobytes so the thought of "only" 1Gb of memory doesn't cause me to shriek in horror.
Thanks for sharing your experiences, Doug. Given that devices like the EeePC are marketed in terms of "less demanding" users, it's good to know what it is like for a "hard user". Further related comments would be welcome! I have to agree about the RAM issue too. My once-trusty old Sharp MZ-80B CP/M machine (early 1980s), with its 64KB and occupying a good 0.25 m^3 of physical space, would have to be replicated 2^14 = 16384 times over to give the same RAM (and occupy some 400 m^3 of space, say 7.4m x 7.4m x 7.4m, or about the size of my house). Now I have things on my desk, about the size of my thumb, with 8MB in each. Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding at manchester.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 08-Mar-09 Time: 18:20:45 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------