After many helpful suggestions from many including Brian Ripley, Peter Dalgaard, Martin Maechler, Douglas Bates, and Tristan Savatier--it is clearly time to upgrade my system from SPARC-10 Solaris 2.4. Rational choice of configuration should be based on intended application and perhaps the fact it is my pension, not my university, which now finances my research. My most demanding applications are R, Xlispstat, S(ancient vanilla 2.0) and my own ad hoc f77 (and ratfor) programs. I do Monte Carlo multivariate models of quantitative multigenic phenomena with significant genetic-environmental interactions and compare the results both numerically and graphically with data-banked empirical data. On my present system an optimized fortran run takes about three days. Suggestions keep pointing me toward an Intel box with a PC disc partition for those kinds of occasional uses and with linux or(perhaps and) Intel-Solaris for the primary usage. Other than for the substantial disc storage needs to be ported, I have little idea of optimum configuration.for these systems in terms of memory or other hardware elements. Cost seems to dictate IDE. Look and feel might give an edge to Solaris but linux offers a wider base of user experience to tap. I would appreciate any suggestions from those with experience with comparable application needs. gordon Gordon M. Harrington Mail: 3720 Village Place, #6308 Professor Emeritus Waterloo, IA 50702-5848 University of Northern Iowa Phone: 319-291-8535 gordon.harrington at uni.edu Fax: 319-291-8324 -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._
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3 messages · gordon.harrington@uni.edu, Douglas Bates, Bernd Johannes Wuebben
"GH" == gordon harrington <gordon.harrington at uni.edu> writes:
GH> After many helpful suggestions from many including Brian Ripley, GH> Peter Dalgaard, Martin Maechler, Douglas Bates, and Tristan GH> Savatier--it is clearly time to upgrade my system from SPARC-10 GH> Solaris 2.4. Rational choice of configuration should be based on GH> intended application and perhaps the fact it is my pension, not GH> my university, which now finances my research. GH> My most demanding applications are R, Xlispstat, S(ancient GH> vanilla 2.0) and my own ad hoc f77 (and ratfor) programs. I do GH> Monte Carlo multivariate models of quantitative multigenic GH> phenomena with significant genetic-environmental interactions GH> and compare the results both numerically and graphically with GH> data-banked empirical data. On my present system an optimized GH> fortran run takes about three days. GH> Suggestions keep pointing me toward an Intel box with a PC disc GH> partition for those kinds of occasional uses and with linux GH> or(perhaps and) Intel-Solaris for the primary usage. Other than GH> for the substantial disc storage needs to be ported, I have GH> little idea of optimum configuration.for these systems in terms GH> of memory or other hardware elements. Cost seems to dictate GH> IDE. Look and feel might give an edge to Solaris but linux GH> offers a wider base of user experience to tap. GH> I would appreciate any suggestions from those with experience GH> with comparable application needs. I think you are right that the price/performance of Intel-based systems running Unix or Linux is hard to beat these days. We use both Solaris/Intel and Linux/Intel. I prefer Linux as it has more applications available for it. It certainly has momentum in its favor these days and I feel that the idea of free or Open-Source software has a lot going for it. In contrast, Solaris/Intel is in a peculiar position. Sun would like people to be using it but they _really_ want people to be using Solaris/SPARC so they can sell them hardware. This means that support decisions for Solaris/Intel could be influenced by commercial considerations rather than technical superiority. If you are willing to take a day trip from Waterloo to Madison, I would be pleased to show you what we are doing with Linux here. If you want to bring your CPU with you we can probably get Linux installed on it while you are here. I haven't had any performance problems with IDE disk drives. I just compiled a 2.2.0-pre5 kernel on Friday evening (the day before 2.2.0-pre6 came out - naturally) and it recognizes my drive/controller combination can do DMA. I would put the money into memory before worrying about SCSI versus IDE. Besides, a 6 Gb IDE drive sells for about (US)$100 these days so the investment is not too great. I would buy a larger hard drive so you can partition it and run multiple operating systems if you choose. The only real disadvantage to having a lot of disk space is deciding how you are going to back it up. As for distributions of Linux, I think that RedHat is the easiest system to work with on your own and to get support for. I personally prefer Debian but it is probably not the best choice to try to install for the first time. Make sure you get RedHat 5.2. I have seen it advertised in computer stores here for $20. (Interestingly enough, it was advertised as a "Utility". I can just imagine the typical computer neophyte who installs this "utility" and ignores the little warning about "You are about to re-format your hard drive. This may result in a loss of data".) -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._
I agree with pretty much everything that Douglas said -- though I'd like to point out, if I may, that in my opinion Suse 6.0 is definitely on par with RedHat 5.2 if not surpassing it. See the latest reader poll in the Linux Journal ( January issue ) where Suse was voted #1. One of many advantages of Suse over RedHat is that the Suse 6.0 CD set comes with much more 'stuff' than the RedHat 5.2 distribution and thus saves you lots of dowload time. Best, Bernd
As for distributions of Linux, I think that RedHat is the easiest system to work with on your own and to get support for. I personally prefer Debian but it is probably not the best choice to try to install for the first time. Make sure you get RedHat 5.2. I have seen it advertised in computer stores here for $20. (Interestingly enough, it was advertised as a "Utility". I can just imagine the typical computer neophyte who installs this "utility" and ignores the little warning about "You are about to re-format your hard drive. This may result in a loss of data".)
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