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Can Package SEM do mean structural analysis?

5 messages · Mitsuo Igarashi, John Fox

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Hi.

I am wondering whether Package SEM can do with intercepts and 
means in its structural analysis.

If it can not calculate, how can I make a supplemental function 
in R?

Many thanks in advance.

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Mitsuo Igarashi
mitsu5 at ruby.famille.ne.jp
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Dear Mitsuo,

My intention in writing the sem package was to provide a basic 
structural-equation facility for R. I haven't made explicit provision for 
models with means, but it might be possible to fit such models by using the 
raw sums-of-squares-and-products matrix among the observed variables 
(perhaps divided by n) as input.  It might be necessary to make small 
modifications to degrees of freedom, etc.

I'm afraid that I don't have time now to figure out whether this will work 
and, if so, precisely how to do it, but you're welcome to try. If you get 
it to work, I'd be interested in the answer. If this approach doesn't work, 
then incorporating means would likely require major modifications to the 
program.

There are, by the way, several other things that dedicated 
structural-equation software does that the sem package does not -- e.g., 
analysis by groups and for ordinal observed variables. I may, at some 
point, extend the package in these directions, but I don't have plans at 
the moment to do so.

Good luck,
  John
At 10:53 PM 5/24/2003 +0900, you wrote:

            
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John Fox
Department of Sociology
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada L8S 4M4
email: jfox at mcmaster.ca
phone: 905-525-9140x23604
web: www.socsci.mcmaster.ca/jfox
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Dear John:

Thank you very much for your prompt explanation on the 
present possibilities of SEM.

I am not a statistician so that I can not figure out the raw sums-of-squares-and-products matrix.
And I will do with SEM in the area without mean structural 
equation.

I appreciate your good teaching at every time.
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Mitsuo Igarashi
mitsu5 at ruby.famille.ne.jp
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John Fox <jfox at mcmaster.ca> wrote:

            
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Dear Mitsuo,

The raw sums of squares and products matrix contains the sums of squares 
and sums of cross-products for the variables without subtracting the means. 
You'd add an initial column one ones to represent the means. As I said, I 
don't have time now to work out in detail whether this will allow you to 
fit models with means.

John
At 02:03 PM 5/25/2003 +0900, Mitsuo Igarashi wrote:
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John Fox
Department of Sociology
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada L8S 4M4
email: jfox at mcmaster.ca
phone: 905-525-9140x23604
web: www.socsci.mcmaster.ca/jfox
3 days later
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Dear John:

I can make it on your suggestion in mean structural analysis.

I appreciate so much and love your package sem.
I hope your package sem will be extended in near future.
John Fox <jfox at mcmaster.ca> wrote:

            
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Mitsuo Igarashi
mitsu5 at ruby.famille.ne.jp