I thought R users might be interested (surprised) to hear that R will have some competition on Linux now. Bill ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 01:37:15 GMT From: Cheryl Mauer <cmauer at statsci.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce Subject: COMMERCIAL: S-PLUS Data Analysis Software now Available on Linux Followup-To: comp.os.linux.misc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- S-PLUS 5 is an advanced data analysis, visualization, and statistical modeling package designed for researchers, quantitative analysts and technical professionals. If you would like more information about the new Linux version please visit: http://www.mathsoft.com/splus/splsprod/splslinux.htm Cheryl Mauer (cmauer at statsci.com) -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._
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4 messages · Bill Simpson, Jeffrey A. Royle, Brian Ripley +1 more
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Yea, they've been saying this for months! A Statsci rep told me at the joint meetings last year that it would be out in October, it wasn't, and then they had a press release in late november or something and it still wasn't out. In any case, it's only $5000 for a single user license, according to the rep I spoke with. Contrast that with the $1200 Windows license.....(of course, the multi user functionality that is implicit in *nix os's is factored in). andy
I thought R users might be interested (surprised) to hear that R will have some competition on Linux now. Bill ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 01:37:15 GMT From: Cheryl Mauer <cmauer at statsci.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.announce Subject: COMMERCIAL: S-PLUS Data Analysis Software now Available on Linux Followup-To: comp.os.linux.misc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- S-PLUS 5 is an advanced data analysis, visualization, and statistical modeling package designed for researchers, quantitative analysts and technical professionals. If you would like more information about the new Linux version please visit: http://www.mathsoft.com/splus/splsprod/splslinux.htm Cheryl Mauer (cmauer at statsci.com) -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._
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On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Jeffrey A. Royle wrote:
Yea, they've been saying this for months! A Statsci rep told me at the joint meetings last year that it would be out in October, it wasn't, and then they had a press release in late november or something and it still wasn't out. In any case, it's only $5000 for a single user
Oh, come on, lots of users do have copies out there; it has been shipping in the UK for a couple of months, and your prices bear no resemblence to those academics at least actually pay (and you are posting from an academic address). We know: we have paid for ours. I don't think unsubstantiated S-PLUS knocking on R-help is helpful.
Brian D. Ripley, ripley at stats.ox.ac.uk Professor of Applied Statistics, http://www.stats.ox.ac.uk/~ripley/ University of Oxford, Tel: +44 1865 272861 (self) 1 South Parks Road, +44 1865 272860 (secr) Oxford OX1 3TG, UK Fax: +44 1865 272595 -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._
On Wed, 27 Jan 1999, Prof Brian D Ripley wrote:
I don't think unsubstantiated S-PLUS knocking on R-help is helpful.
I agree - they are both excellent software and where would R be without all the ported S+ libraries? It may be that there will always be some areas where commercial mathematical software either has the edge. Graphics is generally such an area (cf Matlab/Octave). S+ may well appeal to large institutions, so R may actually help Mathsoft by introducing potential users. Seriously I suspect that R will have a *commercial* effect on Mathsoft but I expect to see more training courses, which are very good money-spinners for commercial companies (every threat is also an opportunity). There may be a temptation to draw a parallel to the NT/Linux debate which I also think is sterile. In this latter case, Linux is the clear winner for both technical (networks in particular) and security (verifiable code) reasons but we wouldn't have the powerful PCs if it were not for Microsoft, the open hardware standard and loads of kids playing games. It is very different to R/S+. John -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.- r-help mailing list -- Read http://www.ci.tuwien.ac.at/~hornik/R/R-FAQ.html Send "info", "help", or "[un]subscribe" (in the "body", not the subject !) To: r-help-request at stat.math.ethz.ch _._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._._