locale problem in W98

Dear all

I am using two computers, one with Windows2000 and the other one with W98 
both have the same version (precompiled binary) R 1.8.1 and I have experienced a 
slight problem with text used in plotting on W98 machine.

When I try to write some local characters into R console

????????? (not sure if it is OK on your computers)

in W2000 **everything** is OK but in W98 some of the characters (1,3,4,5) are 
changed (and the same is when I try to annotate a plot with them). When I copy it 
from R console to some editor (e.g. Notepad) the characters are again OK and 
when I copy the characters from editor back to console they are again corrupted.

Sys.getlocale()

[1] "LC_COLLATE=Czech_Czech Republic.1250;LC_CTYPE=Czech_Czech 
Republic.1250;LC_MONETARY=C;LC_NUMERIC=C;LC_TIME=Czech_Czec
h Republic.1250"

is same on both and I have checked Rprofile and my profile on both computers 
and it seems to be the same.

I can put Czech characters on finished plots with some other program (GIMP) 
but I prefer to do all possible annotation in R.

Please, can you give me some hint where to look for possible solution on W98 
machine setting.

Thank you 

Petr Pikal
petr.pikal at precheza.cz

What happens if you

1) source() a file containing those characters.

2) Use Rterm?

3) Change the fonts both for the console and for graphics.  Is this
the same for all fonts?

It sounds as if at least part of the problem is the character map that
Rgui is using on your W98 machine.

BTW, I don't think they are `corrupted', just not treated as being in
the encoding you intended (which has nothing to do with locales per se
under Windows).  Rgui does not itself handle encodings, so it accepts
whatever keycode it gets and prints/plots that code in the current
font.

You do know that MicroSoft no longer supports W98?

On Wed, 7 Jan 2004, Petr Pikal wrote:

Dear all

I am using two computers, one with Windows2000 and the other one
with W98 both have the same version (precompiled binary) R 1.8.1 and
I have experienced a slight problem with text used in plotting on
W98 machine.

When I try to write some local characters into R console

????????? (not sure if it is OK on your computers)

I strongly suspect they are not: I cannot display ISO-8859-2.

in W2000 **everything** is OK but in W98 some of the characters
(1,3,4,5) are changed (and the same is when I try to annotate a plot
with them). When I copy it from R console to some editor (e.g.
Notepad) the characters are again OK and when I copy the characters
from editor back to console they are again corrupted.

Sys.getlocale()

[1] "LC_COLLATE=Czech_Czech Republic.1250;LC_CTYPE=Czech_Czech
Republic.1250;LC_MONETARY=C;LC_NUMERIC=C;LC_TIME=Czech_Czec h
Republic.1250"

is same on both and I have checked Rprofile and my profile on both
computers and it seems to be the same.

I can put Czech characters on finished plots with some other program
(GIMP) but I prefer to do all possible annotation in R.

Please, can you give me some hint where to look for possible
solution on W98 machine setting.

Thank you 

Petr Pikal
petr.pikal at precheza.cz

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Hallo

On 7 Jan 2004 at 17:32, Prof Brian Ripley wrote:

What happens if you

1) source() a file containing those characters.

it was the same

2) Use Rterm?

did not try it

3) Change the fonts both for the console and for graphics.  Is this
the same for all fonts?

I tried and now it is ok. It helped to change Courier New to 
Courier and to add CE to some font declaration as Times New 
Roman CE.

BTW I tried help.search("font") and went through Rsite search 
but nothing pointed me to correct solution (Rdevga, Rconsole). 

Adding "For some locale font problems see also Rdevga, 
Rconsole" would be great let say in Hershey font page.