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[R-pkg-devel] tibbles are not data frames

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 11:56 AM, G?bor Cs?rdi <csardi.gabor at gmail.com>
wrote:
Fair enough. And I shouldn't have used the word "inherit" in the first
place, we're talking S3 after all. Fwiw, overriding a method to do the
exact same except for one detail isn't encouraged in the OOP world either.
Actually it's not independent of tibbles as illustrated by others.
is.data.frame() returns TRUE for tibbles. It doesn't for matrices or
vectors.
This would also allow matrices or vectors to be converted to data.frames,
and that might or might not be warranted.

I agree that the S3 system allows you to do this, and think it's up to the
package manager to decide whether or not they would allow their users to
use tibbles instead of data.frame objects.

I think the bigger frustration is that tibble users are more prone to
expect all code to work exactly like it does with data.frames. Which it
obviously doesn't.

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Göran Broström tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Stefan McKinnon Høj-Edwards tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Alexandre Courtiol tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Göran Broström tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Joris Meys tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Stefan McKinnon Høj-Edwards tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Joris Meys tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Gábor Csárdi tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Göran Broström tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Göran Broström tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Daniel Lüdecke tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Gábor Csárdi tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 David Hugh-Jones tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Stefan McKinnon Høj-Edwards tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Alexandre Courtiol tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Joris Meys tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Thierry Onkelinx tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Holger Hoefling tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 CJ Yetman tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Iñaki Ucar tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Daniel Lüdecke tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Pedro J. Aphalo tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Göran Broström tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Gábor Csárdi tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Göran Broström tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Jeroen Ooms tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Hadley Wickham tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Joris Meys tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Hadley Wickham tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Hadley Wickham tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Pedro J. Aphalo tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Hadley Wickham tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Joris Meys tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Göran Broström tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Hadley Wickham tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Joris Meys tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Hadley Wickham tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Jens Oehlschlägel tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Hadley Wickham tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 John C Nash tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Dirk Eddelbuettel tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Duncan Murdoch tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 John C Nash tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Jim Lemon tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Jens Oehlschlägel tibbles are not data frames Sep 27 Jens Oehlschlägel tibbles are not data frames Sep 27 Duncan Murdoch tibbles are not data frames Sep 27 Göran Broström Summary: tibbles are not data frames Sep 29