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[R-pkg-devel] tibbles are not data frames

I could not agree more with G?ran and we had to change code in our packages
because if this too. I also see students often facing bugs because of it.
Again, with all the respect I have for Hadley.
On 26 Sep 2017 9:32 a.m., "G?ran Brostr?m" <goran.brostrom at umu.se> wrote:
I am beginning to get complaints from users of my CRAN packages (especially
'eha') to the effect that they get error messages like "Error: Unsupported
use of matrix or array for column indexing".

It turns out that they are sticking in tibbles into functions that expect
data frames as input. And I am using the kind of subsetting that Hadley
dislikes (eha is an old package, much older than tibbles). It is of course
a simple matter to change the code so it handles both data frames and
tibbles correctly, but this affects many functions, and it will take some
time. And when the next guy introduces 'troubles' as an improvement of
'tibbles', I will have to rewrite the code again.

While I like Hadley's way of doing it, I think it is a mistake to let a
tibble also be of class data frame. To me it is a matter of inheritance and
backwards compability: A tibble should add nice things to a data frame, not
change basic behaviour, in order to call itself a data frame.

Is it correct to let a tibble be of class "data.frame"?

G?ran Brostr?m

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Göran Broström tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Stefan McKinnon Høj-Edwards tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Alexandre Courtiol tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Göran Broström tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Joris Meys tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Stefan McKinnon Høj-Edwards tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Joris Meys tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Gábor Csárdi tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Göran Broström tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Göran Broström tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Daniel Lüdecke tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Gábor Csárdi tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 David Hugh-Jones tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Stefan McKinnon Høj-Edwards tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Alexandre Courtiol tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Joris Meys tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Thierry Onkelinx tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Holger Hoefling tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 CJ Yetman tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Iñaki Ucar tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Daniel Lüdecke tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Pedro J. Aphalo tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Göran Broström tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Gábor Csárdi tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Göran Broström tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Jeroen Ooms tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Hadley Wickham tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Joris Meys tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Hadley Wickham tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Hadley Wickham tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Pedro J. Aphalo tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Hadley Wickham tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Joris Meys tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Göran Broström tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Hadley Wickham tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Joris Meys tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Hadley Wickham tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Jens Oehlschlägel tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Hadley Wickham tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 John C Nash tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Dirk Eddelbuettel tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Duncan Murdoch tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 John C Nash tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Jim Lemon tibbles are not data frames Sep 26 Jens Oehlschlägel tibbles are not data frames Sep 27 Jens Oehlschlägel tibbles are not data frames Sep 27 Duncan Murdoch tibbles are not data frames Sep 27 Göran Broström Summary: tibbles are not data frames Sep 29