Message-ID: <e3d64b00-4f72-bf4b-38d8-56f650f28957@gmail.com>
Date: 2017-09-26T21:29:38Z
From: John C Nash
Subject: [R-pkg-devel] tibbles are not data frames
In-Reply-To: <CABdHhvF+WKqPUBehdAMJXMtkPCwBXjD8-Diw+XCpF-T9TYiYcA@mail.gmail.com>
Having been around a while and part of several programming language and
other standards (see ISO 6373:1984 and IEEE 754-1985), I prefer some democracy at the
level of getting a standard. Though perhaps at the design level I can agree
with Hadley. However, we're now at the stage of needing to clean up R
and actually get rid of some serious annoyances, in which I would include
my own contributions that appear in optim(), namely the Nelder-Mead,
BFGS and CG options for which there are replacements.
In the tibble/data-frame issue, it would appear there could be a resolution
with some decision making at the R-core level, and whether that is democratic
or ad-hoc, it needs to happen.
JN
On 2017-09-26 05:08 PM, Hadley Wickham wrote:
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> I'm not sure that democracy works for programming language design.
>
> Hadley
>