Yutani,
I'm not quite sure your reading fully matches the intent of the policy.
Cargo.lock is not sufficient, it is expected that the package will provide
*all* the sources, it is not expected to use cargo to resolve them from
random (possibly inaccessible) places. So the package author is expected to
either include the sources in the package *or* (if prohibitive due to
extreme size) have a release tar ball available at a fixed, secure,
reliable location (I was recommending Zenodo.org for that reason - GitHub
is neither fixed nor reliable by definition).
Based on that, I'm not sure I fully understand the scope of your proposal
for improvement. Carlo.lock is certainly the first step that the package
author should take in creating the distribution tar ball so you can fix the
versions, but it is not sufficient as the next step involves collecting the
related sources. We don't want R users to be involved in that can of worms
(especially since the lock file itself provides no guarantees of
accessibility of the components and we don't want to have to manually
inspect it), the package should be ready to be used which is why it has to
do that step first. Does that explain the intent better? (In general, the
downloading at install time is actually a problem, because it's not
uncommon to use R in environments that have no Internet access, but the
download is a concession for extreme cases where the tar balls may be too
big to make it part of the package, but it's yet another can of worms...).
Cheers,
Simon
On 13/07/2023, at 12:37 PM, Hiroaki Yutani <yutani.ini at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
I'm glad to see CRAN now has its official policy about Rust [1]!
It seems it probably needs some feedback from those who are familiar with
the Rust workflow. I'm not an expert, but let me leave some quick
This email is sent to the R-package-devel mailing list as well as to
so that we can publicly discuss.
It seems most of the concern is about how to make the build
In this regard, the policy should encourage including "Cargo.lock" file
[2]. Cargo.lock is created on the first compile, and the resolved
of dependencies are recorded. As long as this file exists, the dependency
versions are locked to the ones in this file, except when the package
author explicitly updates the versions.
Cargo.lock also records the SHA256 checksums of the crates if they are
crates.io, Rust's official crate registry. If the checksums don't match,
the build will fail with the following message:
error: checksum for `foo v0.1.2` changed between lock files
this could be indicative of a few possible errors:
* the lock file is corrupt
* a replacement source in use (e.g., a mirror) returned a
checksum
* the source itself may be corrupt in one way or another
unable to verify that `foo v0.1.2` is the same as when the lockfile
generated
For dependencies from Git repositories, Cargo.lock records the commit
hashes. So, the version of the source code (not the version of the crate)
is uniquely determined. That said, unlike cargo.io, it's possible that
commit or the Git repository itself has disappeared at the time of
building, which makes the build fail. So, it might be reasonable the CRAN
policy prohibits the use of Git dependency unless the source code is
bundled. I have no strong opinion here.
Accordingly, I believe this sentence
In practice maintainers have found it nigh-impossible to meet these
conditions whilst downloading as they have too little control.
is not quite true. More specifically, these things
The standard way to download a Rust ?crate? is by its version number,
these have been changed without changing their number.
Downloading a ?crate? normally entails downloading its dependencies, and
that is done without fixing their version numbers
won't happen if the R package does include Cargo.lock because
- if the crate is from crates.io, "the version can never be overwritten,
and the code cannot be deleted" there [3]
- if the crate is from a Git repository, the commit hash is unique in its
nature. The version of the crate might be the same between commits, but a
git dependency is specified by the commit hash, not the version of the
crate.
I'm keen to know what problems the CRAN maintainers have experienced that
Cargo.lock cannot solve. I hope we can help somehow to improve the