Dear All, I am the maintainer of a package which is unfortunately involved in a complicated dispute regarding its intellectual property (since the package was partly built under a contract with an organisation), but also the "branding" of the package, i.e. the name. The story is long and complicated, but suffice to say that the name of the package is apparently creating a misleading connection with the organisation, and this is causing difficulties on both sides. I am aware that changing the name of a package is very disruptive, and I am not considering it lightly. However just for information at this stage, I wonder if anyone could tell me whether packages have ever changed names on CRAN, what the rules are in these cases, and if there is any advice for minimising the disruption. To reiterate, I am not (yet) planning to do this, but exploring options and looking for advice. Thanks for any help, William William Becker PhD willbecker.me https://www.willbecker.me/
[R-pkg-devel] Change package name
8 messages · William Becker, Dirk Eddelbuettel, Tim Salabim +4 more
Hi William,
On 20 June 2023 at 16:06, William Becker wrote:
| I am the maintainer of a package which is unfortunately involved in a complicated dispute regarding its intellectual property (since the package was partly built under a contract with an organisation), but also the "branding" of the package, i.e. the name. | | The story is long and complicated, but suffice to say that the name of the package is apparently creating a misleading connection with the organisation, and this is causing difficulties on both sides. | | I am aware that changing the name of a package is very disruptive, and I am not considering it lightly. However just for information at this stage, I wonder if anyone could tell me whether packages have ever changed names on CRAN, what the rules are in these cases, and if there is any advice for minimising the disruption. | | To reiterate, I am not (yet) planning to do this, but exploring options and looking for advice. You presented the reasoning convincingly and are aware of the general "we would rather not do this" sentiment. Ultimately, this (as so often) is CRAN's call so you have to do that (directly and not via this list). My sense is that you have a case but only CRAN can tell. Good luck, Dirk
dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel | edd at debian.org
I second Dirk's suggestion to address this issue directly to CRAN. I had one of my packages changed once from "Reot" to "remote" (which enables calculation of empirical orthogonal teleconnections as introduced by van den Dool 2000) and had to present some convincing arguments to do so (in quite a long email conversation). The point that finally convinced CRAN in my case was that a reviewer of the complementing publication about the package in jss requested that name change as Reot could easily be misinterpreted as rotated eot, analogous to EOF and rotated EOF. And jss apparently has the policy to only publish papers about packages available from CRAN. So, as Dirk said, it is possible to convince CRAN, but you need good arguments. Best Tim
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023, 18:00 Dirk Eddelbuettel <edd at debian.org> wrote:
Hi William, On 20 June 2023 at 16:06, William Becker wrote: | I am the maintainer of a package which is unfortunately involved in a complicated dispute regarding its intellectual property (since the package was partly built under a contract with an organisation), but also the "branding" of the package, i.e. the name. | | The story is long and complicated, but suffice to say that the name of the package is apparently creating a misleading connection with the organisation, and this is causing difficulties on both sides. | | I am aware that changing the name of a package is very disruptive, and I am not considering it lightly. However just for information at this stage, I wonder if anyone could tell me whether packages have ever changed names on CRAN, what the rules are in these cases, and if there is any advice for minimising the disruption. | | To reiterate, I am not (yet) planning to do this, but exploring options and looking for advice. You presented the reasoning convincingly and are aware of the general "we would rather not do this" sentiment. Ultimately, this (as so often) is CRAN's call so you have to do that (directly and not via this list). My sense is that you have a case but only CRAN can tell. Good luck, Dirk -- dirk.eddelbuettel.com | @eddelbuettel | edd at debian.org
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On 20.06.2023 18:00, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
Hi William, On 20 June 2023 at 16:06, William Becker wrote: | I am the maintainer of a package which is unfortunately involved in a complicated dispute regarding its intellectual property (since the package was partly built under a contract with an organisation), but also the "branding" of the package, i.e. the name. | | The story is long and complicated, but suffice to say that the name of the package is apparently creating a misleading connection with the organisation, and this is causing difficulties on both sides. | | I am aware that changing the name of a package is very disruptive, and I am not considering it lightly. However just for information at this stage, I wonder if anyone could tell me whether packages have ever changed names on CRAN, what the rules are in these cases, and if there is any advice for minimising the disruption. | | To reiterate, I am not (yet) planning to do this, but exploring options and looking for advice. You presented the reasoning convincingly and are aware of the general "we would rather not do this" sentiment. Ultimately, this (as so often) is CRAN's call so you have to do that (directly and not via this list). My sense is that you have a case but only CRAN can tell.
Yes, CRAN will accept this case. Best, Uwe Ligges
Good luck, Dirk
If you really need a new package name, is there an accepted way to update the old name to at least provide a message for a while as to the new name to use and perhaps have the load otherwise fail? -----Original Message----- From: R-package-devel <r-package-devel-bounces at r-project.org> On Behalf Of Dirk Eddelbuettel Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2023 12:00 PM To: William Becker <william.becker at bluefoxdata.eu> Cc: r-package-devel at r-project.org Subject: Re: [R-pkg-devel] Change package name Hi William,
On 20 June 2023 at 16:06, William Becker wrote:
| I am the maintainer of a package which is unfortunately involved in a complicated dispute regarding its intellectual property (since the package was partly built under a contract with an organisation), but also the "branding" of the package, i.e. the name. | | The story is long and complicated, but suffice to say that the name of the package is apparently creating a misleading connection with the organisation, and this is causing difficulties on both sides. | | I am aware that changing the name of a package is very disruptive, and I am not considering it lightly. However just for information at this stage, I wonder if anyone could tell me whether packages have ever changed names on CRAN, what the rules are in these cases, and if there is any advice for minimising the disruption. | | To reiterate, I am not (yet) planning to do this, but exploring options and looking for advice. You presented the reasoning convincingly and are aware of the general "we would rather not do this" sentiment. Ultimately, this (as so often) is CRAN's call so you have to do that (directly and not via this list). My sense is that you have a case but only CRAN can tell. Good luck, Dirk
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Dear All, Thanks very much for the positive and helpful replies here. All the best, William
On 20/06/2023 19:36 CEST Uwe Ligges <ligges at statistik.tu-dortmund.de> wrote: On 20.06.2023 18:00, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
Hi William, On 20 June 2023 at 16:06, William Becker wrote: | I am the maintainer of a package which is unfortunately involved in a complicated dispute regarding its intellectual property (since the package was partly built under a contract with an organisation), but also the "branding" of the package, i.e. the name. | | The story is long and complicated, but suffice to say that the name of the package is apparently creating a misleading connection with the organisation, and this is causing difficulties on both sides. | | I am aware that changing the name of a package is very disruptive, and I am not considering it lightly. However just for information at this stage, I wonder if anyone could tell me whether packages have ever changed names on CRAN, what the rules are in these cases, and if there is any advice for minimising the disruption. | | To reiterate, I am not (yet) planning to do this, but exploring options and looking for advice. You presented the reasoning convincingly and are aware of the general "we would rather not do this" sentiment. Ultimately, this (as so often) is CRAN's call so you have to do that (directly and not via this list). My sense is that you have a case but only CRAN can tell.
Yes, CRAN will accept this case. Best, Uwe Ligges
Good luck, Dirk
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:39:48 -0400
<avi.e.gross at gmail.com> wrote:
If you really need a new package name, is there an accepted way to update the old name to at least provide a message for a while as to the new name to use and perhaps have the load otherwise fail?
I don't know about "accepted", but the following paradigm seems to me to be sensible and reasonably efficacious: * you have a package "foo" the name of which you wish to change to "bar" * create a new package "bar" which is the same as "foo" except for its name * now replace foo with a skeleton package which has only the file First.R in its R directory * the file First.R should be something like:
.onAttach <- function(lib, pkg) {
ver <- read.dcf(file.path(lib, pkg, "DESCRIPTION"), "Version")
packageStartupMessage(paste(pkg, ver))
msg <- paste("\n This package, \"foo\" is now",
" deprecated. Users",
"\n should install and use its",
" successor \"bar\".\n")
packageStartupMessage(msg) }
* submit both "bar" and "foo" to CRAN cheers, Rolf Turner
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On 6/21/23 8:33 PM, Rolf Turner wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 17:39:48 -0400 <avi.e.gross at gmail.com> wrote:
If you really need a new package name, is there an accepted way to update the old name to at least provide a message for a while as to the new name to use and perhaps have the load otherwise fail?
I don't know about "accepted", but the following paradigm seems to me to be sensible and reasonably efficacious: * you have a package "foo" the name of which you wish to change to "bar" * create a new package "bar" which is the same as "foo" except for its name * now replace foo with a skeleton package which has only the file First.R in its R directory * the file First.R should be something like:
.onAttach <- function(lib, pkg) {
ver <- read.dcf(file.path(lib, pkg, "DESCRIPTION"), "Version")
packageStartupMessage(paste(pkg, ver))
msg <- paste("\n This package, \"foo\" is now",
" deprecated. Users",
"\n should install and use its",
" successor \"bar\".\n")
packageStartupMessage(msg) }
* submit both "bar" and "foo" to CRAN
Years ago, I had package "RSiteSearch". I asked some R list what might be a better name for that. "sos" was suggested, and Duncan Murdoch contributed code for an enhancement. Then I added something like ".onAttach" to "RSiteSearch" and kept it on CRAN for a couple of years after introducing "sos". That allowed people to use the old package for a couple of years without forcing them to switch immediately. I think that worked quite well. Hope this helps. Spencer Graves
cheers, Rolf Turner