How to obtain P value from Monte Carlo sampling for adonis (permanova)?
Dear Ellen, You can create a Permutation matrix holding ALL possible permutations for a given permutation design using permute::allPerms() [Checkout the help therein]. This matrix can be passed to adonis/adonis2 via the permutations= argument. Hope this helps, Eduard
On 18.11.2016 09:39, Ellen Pape wrote:
Dear all, I have recently decided to switch from Permanova/Primer to R, because the latter is freeware (and I don't know for how long I will still have a license). However, if I cannot seem to resolve my problem (see below), I might have to go back to using Primer/Permanova. If I run pairwise permanova/adonis tests on my data, the number of unique permutations is small (I have two groups, each group has 3 observations) and the minimum P value I can get is larger than the alpha value I (and most people) that I use to determine statistical significance (i.e. 0.05). In the manual of the PERMANOVA+ add-on in Primer by Anderson et al. (2008) it is mentioned (page 28 and onwards) that when the number of unique permutations is small (<100) than one should preferably interpret the Monte-Carlo p value. Does anyone know how to do this in R? In my internet search I stumbled upon this page: http://r.789695.n4.nabble.com/monte-carlo-simulations-in-permanova-in-vegan-package-td4714034.html. "JAri Oksanen answered here: 2. If you want to do so, you can generate your resampling matrices by hand and use that matrix as the argument of permutations=. See the documentations (?adonis) which tells how to do so. ", but I don't understand how to this.. Thank you very much! Ellen [[alternative HTML version deleted]]
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