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NMDS with metaMDS from vegan following an example from Numerical Ecology with R

On 13/06/2012, at 07:33 AM, Manuel Sp?nola wrote:

            
Manuel,

I'm too lazy to go to have a look at the book now (I'm sitting in my balcony sipping my morning coffee), but I assume that the difference is that metaMDS in your book was still based on MASS::isoMDS(), but the current vegan (from 2.0-0) uses its own monoMDS() function as a default. One difference is that isoMDS() expresses the stress per cent, and monoMDS() as parts of one, so that equal isoMDS() is 100x higher. Another difference is that monoMDS() implements treatment of tied dissimilarity values, and defaults to "weak" ties so that equal observed dissimilarities can be allowed to be at different ordination distances. If I remember correctly, these Doubs fish data are very simple so that monoMDS() really may be able to have nearly zero stress (which is suspect in general). 

For better correspondence to the book, you may first try setting 'weakties = FALSE' which will force tie treatment that is closer to isoMDS(), but still not identical. For true replication of the book results you should set 'engine = "isoMDS"'.

As usual, these are documented features.

Cheers, Jari Oksanen