Mantel test with skew-symmetric matrices?
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Jari Oksanen <jari.oksanen at oulu.fi> wrote:
Sarah & Steve, This was the design I had on my mind. However, I was not sure how skew-symmetry actually was defined, and therefore I didn't know if free permutation of rows and columns (even when done correctly like above) will retain the skew-symmetry. The free permutation would be OK for non-symmetric matrices, but what about skew-symmetric? (Little thinking and pen & paper probably would give a quick answer, but I won't do that for a while).
Exactly. It would need some thinking through, and I don't have a quick answer. Steve asked elsewhere what I thought about using just the symmetric component. It depends on whether directionality is important: if the distance from A to B is not the same as the distance from B to A, then discarding that information would not give the same results. But then you're out of Mantel test territory, and into network analysis or something similar. That directional component could be problematic, especially if as Jari mentions, the permutation must preserve that skew-symmetry (mine doesn't). You could instead permute the matrix by reordering the rows and columns, then forcing the lower triangle to be positive and the upper to be negative. Sarah
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