interpreting adonis results
On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 11:41 +0200, Jari Oksanen wrote:
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Howdy Folks, It seems that empty groups (count is zero) are the source of the problem. You can drop them using factor() command for your interaction -- this drops empty levels: mod <- betadisper(betad, factor(groupA)) works for me.
droplevels() would be what the cool kids would use, just to be hip ;-) It's new to recent versions of R (>= 2.13.0 IIRC). For factors it is just a roundabout way of doing `factor(myfac)`:
droplevels.factor
function (x, ...) factor(x) <environment: namespace:base> but there is a data.frame method which drops empty levels for all factors in a data frame, and package authors can write other methods which might become useful in various places in the future. So good to know that `droplevels()` exists.
However, like Gav said, this may not be a meaningful test (but still calls for a fix in vegan).
I'll take a look at adding a test/fix to vegan. G
If I remember correctly, Marti Anderson had interactions in her software, but that was dropped from current versions. Cheers, jari oksanen
For the dune dataset, the above error occured. But for my data, the interaction works. I wonder if i continue to use the new factor generated from the factor-interaction for the betadisper, will it affects the results? If this is wrong, what would be the recommended function to use?
I would need to check more carefully, but this may not be what Marti Anderson's software would fit as an interaction model. I may be misremembering, but IIRC PERMDISP can handle two-way ANOVA type models within her framework and betadisper is not set-up for that. What you have done is look at whether certain combinations of your two factors of interest are more variable/dispersed than others. Which seems a reasonable hypothesis to me. G
Sincerely Yours, J On Nov 17 2011, Kay Cecil Cichini wrote:
..to be save I would consider to exclude an effect due to different multivariate spread. See chapter 5.2, Homogeneity of groups and beta diversity, in the vegan tutorial at http://cc.oulu.fi/~jarioksa/opetus/metodi/vegantutor.pdf. best, kay Zitat von Gavin Simpson <gavin.simpson at ucl.ac.uk>:
On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 03:43 +0100, Gian Maria Niccol? Benucci wrote:
Hi all, I had 84 samples collected in 7 different sites. In each sample were individuated the different fungal species and recorded. I would test if exist a real difference between the sites and if exist a sort of site effect that structure the fungal communities... Then, I did adonis test
adonis(community.sq ~ location, data=env.table, permutations=999)
Call: adonis(formula = community.sq ~ location, data = env.table,
permutations = 999)
Df SumsOfSqs MeanSqs F.Model R2 Pr(>F)
location 6 12.593 2.09886 6.8867 0.34922 0.001 ***
Residuals 77 23.467 0.30477 0.65078
Total 83 36.060 1.00000
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Signif. codes: 0 *** 0.001 ** 0.01 * 0.05 . 0.1 1
The significance is R2=0.349 at P=0.001 Can I assure that exist a
strong site effect in structuring the communities in each site?
Depends. The test is one of no effect of `location`. You have found evidence against this hypothesis and thus could reject this hypothesis, instead accepting the alternative hypothesis that there is an effect of `location`. As to the strength of this effect? ~35% of the sums of squares can be explained by `location`. Substantially more of the variance remains unexplained. As I know nothing about your subject area, I am unable to comment further on the strength of the relationship. Seeing as many ecologists whose work I read would say an effect is significant if the p-value was >= 0.05. Not that I subscribe to this way or working, but by that criterion, you have identified a significant `location` effect. HTH G
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