Hello, Everyone. My name is Ali Erdinc Koroglu, I work at Intel in the Linux Systems Engineering team where we build and package optimization work across various Linux distros. I'm also CentOS Hyperscale SIG member + Fedora packager (fas: aekoroglu) and NeuroSIG member. I was planning to work on R + OpenBLAS and upgrade R packages for Fedora and migrate the missing once into EPEL8/9. So I think the R SIG is an?excellent fit for my efforts and I would like to become a member. I look forward to working with you all. Best regards, Ali Erdinc Koroglu --------------------------------------------------------------------- Intel Finland Oy Registered Address: PL 281, 00181 Helsinki Business Identity Code: 0357606 - 4 Domiciled in Helsinki This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential material for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies.
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6 messages · Ali Erdinc Koroglu, Iñaki Ucar, Tom Callaway
Hi, Great, some packages are lagging behind, so more hands are welcome, thanks. We are in the process of creating a FAS group for this, but it's not ready yet. For now, you can familiarise yourself with the R packaging guidelines [1], express this interest in [2] and add yourself to the list in [3]. [1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/R/ [2] https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2815 [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/R Best, I?aki On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 at 15:18, Ali Erdinc Koroglu
<ali.erdinc.koroglu at intel.com> wrote:
Hello, Everyone.
My name is Ali Erdinc Koroglu, I work at Intel in the Linux Systems Engineering team where we build and package optimization work across
various Linux distros. I'm also CentOS Hyperscale SIG member + Fedora packager (fas: aekoroglu) and NeuroSIG member.
I was planning to work on R + OpenBLAS and upgrade R packages for Fedora and migrate the missing once into EPEL8/9.
So I think the R SIG is an excellent fit for my efforts and I would like to become a member.
I look forward to working with you all.
Best regards,
Ali Erdinc Koroglu
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Hi Ali, welcome to the SIG! I'm not sure that adding new R module packages makes sense in EPEL. The exponential rate of new dependencies just to be able to keep the existing packages current in Fedora makes it incredibly painful for us to do the R major version upgrades there (whereas, for EPEL, it's much much simpler). Part of why I haven't had time to do the next major R update for Fedora is this, it takes so much time to rebuild the entire R package tree there (and as Fedora work is no longer the primary part of my day job, large multi day efforts like this have not been easy to accomplish). Combine that with the average R user being content to simply install via CRAN, and I'm not sure that the pros outweigh the cons in adding modules as packages to EPEL. I think this is something we should discuss as a SIG though. :) ~spot On Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 9:18 AM Ali Erdinc Koroglu <
ali.erdinc.koroglu at intel.com> wrote:
Hello, Everyone.
My name is Ali Erdinc Koroglu, I work at Intel in the Linux Systems
Engineering team where we build and package optimization work across
various Linux distros. I'm also CentOS Hyperscale SIG member + Fedora
packager (fas: aekoroglu) and NeuroSIG member.
I was planning to work on R + OpenBLAS and upgrade R packages for Fedora
and migrate the missing once into EPEL8/9.
So I think the R SIG is an excellent fit for my efforts and I would like
to become a member.
I look forward to working with you all.
Best regards,
Ali Erdinc Koroglu
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Hello again, I already packed? R-kernlab? :) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2079394 https://download.copr.fedorainfracloud.org/results/aekoroglu/fedora/fedora-rawhide-x86_64/04336853-R-kernlab/R-kernlab.spec
On 21/07/2022 16:35, I?aki Ucar wrote:
Hi, Great, some packages are lagging behind, so more hands are welcome, thanks. We are in the process of creating a FAS group for this, but it's not ready yet. For now, you can familiarise yourself with the R packaging guidelines [1], express this interest in [2] and add yourself to the list in [3]. [1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/R/ [2] https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2815 [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/R Best, I?aki
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On Thu, 21 Jul 2022 at 15:46, Tom Callaway <spotrh at gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Ali, welcome to the SIG! I'm not sure that adding new R module packages makes sense in EPEL. The exponential rate of new dependencies just to be able to keep the existing packages current in Fedora makes it incredibly painful for us to do the R major version upgrades there (whereas, for EPEL, it's much much simpler). Part of why I haven't had time to do the next major R update for Fedora is this, it takes so much time to rebuild the entire R package tree there (and as Fedora work is no longer the primary part of my day job, large multi day efforts like this have not been easy to accomplish). Combine that with the average R user being content to simply install via CRAN, and I'm not sure that the pros outweigh the cons in adding modules as packages to EPEL. I think this is something we should discuss as a SIG though. :)
I agree, and that's why I created [1], which has two advantages: automatic daily sync, and straightforward mass rebuilds. I intend to make these rebuilds straightforward for the official Fedora repo too when the fas group is created, but I still agree that we should keep the packages at a minimum in EPEL. Our efforts would be better employed in recreating [1] for CentOS, which wouldn't be hard, but the main stopper was disk space at the time. I'll ask the Copr team again about this. It would be even easier (and much lightweight) to recreate what Dirk Eddelbuetel did for Ubuntu here [2], which is to reuse binaries created by RStudio (available in [3]) and make proper RPMs, with library dependencies, with them. But I'm not sure we could use Copr for this (anyway, the disk space problem would be still there). We could try OBS. [1] https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/iucar/cran/ [2] https://github.com/eddelbuettel/r2u [3] https://packagemanager.rstudio.com/ I?aki
~spot On Thu, Jul 21, 2022, 9:18 AM Ali Erdinc Koroglu < ali.erdinc.koroglu at intel.com> wrote:
Hello, Everyone.
My name is Ali Erdinc Koroglu, I work at Intel in the Linux Systems
Engineering team where we build and package optimization work across
various Linux distros. I'm also CentOS Hyperscale SIG member + Fedora
packager (fas: aekoroglu) and NeuroSIG member.
I was planning to work on R + OpenBLAS and upgrade R packages for Fedora
and migrate the missing once into EPEL8/9.
So I think the R SIG is an excellent fit for my efforts and I would like
to become a member.
I look forward to working with you all.
Best regards,
Ali Erdinc Koroglu
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I?aki ?car
Hello Tom, thank you for the comments and sure let's discuss this @ SIG :)
On 21/07/2022 16:39, Tom Callaway wrote:
Hi Ali, welcome to the SIG! I'm not sure that adding new R module packages makes sense in EPEL. The exponential rate of new dependencies just to be able to keep the existing packages current in Fedora makes it incredibly painful for us to do the R major version upgrades there (whereas, for EPEL, it's much much simpler). Part of why I haven't had time to do the next major R update for Fedora is this, it takes so much time to rebuild the entire R package tree there (and as Fedora work is no longer the primary part of my day job, large multi day efforts like this have not been easy to accomplish). Combine that with the average R user being content to simply install via CRAN, and I'm not sure that the pros outweigh the cons in adding modules as packages to EPEL. I think this is something we should discuss as a SIG though. :)
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