Value-at-Risk
Hi, Regarding the use of EVT-based VaR, I think it is dependent on the asset class. In exchange rates, e.g., you may generally be served well with EVT for the major currencies, but might do quite badly with emerging market currencies. Likewise, in the credit markets, EVT may not do too well. The assumption of a constant tail index results in misleading VaR at the extreme tails, especially when there are several regime shifts. Take a look at the paper "Testing for Multiple Regimes in the Tail Behavior of Emerging Currency Returns" by B. Candelon and S. Straetmans, LIFE Working Paper 03-035. Cheers, Murali -----Original Message----- From: r-sig-finance-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch [mailto:r-sig-finance-bounces at stat.math.ethz.ch] On Behalf Of Debashis Dutta Sent: 01 July 2009 14:25 To: Wei-han Liu Cc: R-SIG-Finance at stat.math.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Finance] Fw: Value-at-Risk Dear Wei-han, I believe EVT based VaR would provide a better solution specially in stressed situation like the present one, modeling the extremal behaviour in the tail. I used Peaks Over Threshold (POT) based VaR method in my doctoral dissertation. Back testing and comparing the new method to existing ones on real financial events show that this POT based VaR method provides a rather realistic model for the extremal behavior of financial processes, enabling a precise estimation of risk measures. Through the GPD , the model provides a way of estimating the tail behaviour of the random variables without knowledge of the true distribution and as such it is a good candidate for Vale at Risk computation. Most common at this moment is the tail-fitting approach based on the second theorem in extreme value theory (Theorem II Pickands(1975), Balkema and de Haan(1974)). In general this conforms to the first theorem in extreme value theory (Theorem I Fisher and Tippett(1928), and Gnedenko (1943)).The difference between the two theorems is due to the nature of the data generation. For theorem I the data are generated in full range, while in theorem II data is only generated when it surpasses a certain threshold (POT's models or Peak Over Threshold). The POT approach has been developed largely in the insurance business, where only losses (pay outs) above a certain threshold are accessible to the insurance company. Kind Regards, Debashis
On 01/07/2009, Wei-han Liu <weihanliu2002 at yahoo.com> wrote:
Thanks a lot, Robert. I know GARCH models has its forecasting capacity as the reference you shared indicates. I wonder if the Value-at-Risk estimated by extreme value theory can also be used for forecasting purpose. Is there some theory background in this regard? Wei-han ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Robert Iquiapaza <rbali at ufmg.br> To: Wei-han Liu <weihanliu2002 at yahoo.com>; " r-sig-finance at stat.math.ethz.ch" <R-SIG-Finance at stat.math.ethz.ch> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 6:37:21 PM Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Finance] Value-at-Risk See for example "Accurate value-at-risk forecasting based on the normal-GARCH model" by C Hartz, S Mittnik, M Paolella - Computational Statistics and Data Analysis, 2006 best -------------------------------------------------- Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 12:16 PM To: <R-SIG-Finance at stat.math.ethz.ch> Subject: [R-SIG-Finance] Value-at-Risk
Dear R-users: Several questions please on Value-at-Risk. Is Value-at-Risk designed for forecasting purpose? I wonder if Value-at-Risk estimated by in-sample data can be used for
out-of-sample forecasting?
If in-sample Value-at-Risk is estimated by several methods, is it
appropriate to do the model comparisons based on out--of-sample
performance?
Wei-han Liu
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