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Very dissimilar results with Moran's I and EBI

Dears professor Bivand and Richard,

I just saw these emails today. Although I don't know exactly which was
the authors' intended formula (it is, whether it has a typo in the
paper or not), I can say the following. A couple of years ago, after a
course I took with professor Bivand, I contacted the EBI's authors
asking about whether there was a defined closed range of values for
the EBI, such as Moran's I has the [-1,1] range for row standardized W
matrices. Because I was getting some really high values for EBI, even
when using row standardized weight matrices.

Professor Assun??o replied me that he didn't look yet at that
particular question, but he also pointed specifically that an
empirical Bayes estimate is always between the crude rate and the
global average rate, which he claimed that could possibly imply that
Moran's I based on bayesian rates should also be contained between the
bounds of the usual Moran (depending on the weight matrix). The things
is, it seems to me that this scenario he was talking about can only be
true in case we subtract the mean of the EBI smoothed rates, as
professor Bivand has mentioned. Which could suggest that there might
really be a typo in the paper.

In any case I contacted professor Assun??o again last week to direct
the question to him. I recommend Richard to do the same. Let's see
what reply we might get. In any case, I will be eagerly waiting for
that new option to the EBImoran.mc, function to permit the subtraction
of the mean smoothed rate. Is there any approximate date for that to
become available? Since I've been working with comparisons between
indices, that could make for an interesting play for my research....

Best regards,

Fabricio Vasselai
Political Science Department
University of S?o Paulo


2015-03-23 7:43 GMT-03:00 Roger Bivand <Roger.Bivand at nhh.no>:
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