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generate simulation data for a theoretical spatial model
8 messages · Edzer Pebesma, Paulo Justiniano Ribeiro Jr, zhijie zhang +1 more
rusers.sh wrote:
Hi Tomislav, Thanks for your info on unconditional simulation. For conditional simulations, i still cannot find any useful information. I searched the R site and didnot find the possible method to do conditional simulations. 1. CondSimu(RandomField): trend: Not programmed yet. (used by universal kriging) 2. grf(geoR): generates unconditional simulations of Gaussian random fields 3. sim.Krig(fields) #Conditonal simulation of a spatial process It seems to be based on the actual dataset,not a theoretical model. 4. krige(gstat ):Simple, Ordinary or Universal, global or local, Point or Block Kriging,or simulation x <- krige(log(zinc)~x+y, meuse, meuse.grid, model = m, block = c(40,40),nsim=1)
rusers.sh, please use x <- krige(log(zinc)~x+y, meuse, meuse.grid, model = m, nmax=40, nsim=1) both adding the block=c(40,40) as well as omitting the nmax=40 tremendously increased the computing time you needed, the second even more (in an O(n^2) manner) than the first. -- Edzer
I used the above modified codes from krige(gstat ) example to see the effect of "nsim", but unfortunately, it took a longer time and cannot get the results. I guess it used the simulation method to test the model, not what i want. (My system is XP, R2.10.0, gstat09.-64.) Anybody can give me further information on generating the conditional simulations from a theoretical model just like the unconditional examples that Tomislav provided? Thanks a lot. 2010/1/31 Tomislav Hengl <hengl at spatial-analyst.net>
Dear rusers.sh, Here are few simple examples of how to simulate (not-normal) distributions and point processes using geoR and spatstat: http://spatial-analyst.net/book/node/388 See also: http://leg.ufpr.br/geoR/geoRdoc/vignette/geoRintro/geoRintrose8.html#x9-120008 I guess that covariates can be also included (I guess that you then need to switch to conditional simulations - not sure). This should also work for lattice (polygon) data so that you will have jumps in values (but I guess you would still work in gridded systems?). T. Hengl http://home.medewerker.uva.nl/t.hengl/ rusers.sh wrote:
Hi all,
In classical statistics, we always need to generate a theoretical model
such as y=a+b1*x1+b2*x2+e to study some new estimation content. I am
wondering how to generate the similar spatial dataset for a theoretical
model.
Say y is response variable, x1 and x2 are explanatory variables.
1. If y is a continous variable, how should we generate the dataset for a
theoretical spatial point process model in R?
2. If y is a continous variable, how should we generate the dataset for a
theoretical spatial lattice data model in R?
3. If y is 0/1 binary variable, how should we generate the dataset for a
theoretical spatial point process model in R?
4. If y is 0/1 binary variable, how should we generate the dataset for a
ttheoretical spatial lattice data in R?
spatstat and other packages allow us to generate a dataset of a specified
point process and other models, but it seems that they donot allow us to
include possible explanatory variables into a theoretical model. Maybe i
missed some ideas in them.
Anybody can express some ideas or point out some useful resources on the
above four different situations? Small examples in R are preferred.
Thanks a lot.
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rusers.sh, demo(ugsim) in package gstat gives an example how to generate unconditional Gaussian simulations. Specifying the covariates in a formula and the parameter vector beta will add a deterministic trend to that. If, in addition to that, you want unconditionally simulated residuals added to a trend effect that is simulated as well, look at rmvnorm in package mvtnorm how to generate realisations from the multivariate normal distribution with given mean and covariance; finally, combine the two. -- Edzer
rusers.sh wrote:
It works. The problem is that it only generates the simulated data
based on our observed dataset,e.g. "meuse" here.
I wonder if we can generate the simulated dataset from the
user-specified model with covariates included, such as
y~a1*x1+a2*x2+spatial effect. Y can be continuous or 0/1 variables.
Something like this.
The idea is we first specify a theoretical model, and then generate
the simulated data based on this model. The coefficients and spatial
effects are fixed by users, so we may study some new methods.
Thanks.
2010/2/2 Edzer Pebesma <edzer.pebesma at uni-muenster.de
<mailto:edzer.pebesma at uni-muenster.de>>
rusers.sh wrote:
Hi Tomislav,
Thanks for your info on unconditional simulation. For conditional
simulations, i still cannot find any useful information.
I searched the R site and didnot find the possible method to do
conditional simulations.
1. CondSimu(RandomField): trend: Not programmed yet. (used by
universal
kriging)
2. grf(geoR): generates unconditional simulations of Gaussian
random fields
3. sim.Krig(fields) #Conditonal simulation of a spatial process
It seems to be based on the actual dataset,not a theoretical
model.
4. krige(gstat ):Simple, Ordinary or Universal, global or
local, Point or
Block Kriging,or simulation
x <- krige(log(zinc)~x+y, meuse, meuse.grid, model = m, block =
c(40,40),nsim=1)
rusers.sh, please use
x <- krige(log(zinc)~x+y, meuse, meuse.grid, model = m, nmax=40,
nsim=1)
both adding the block=c(40,40) as well as omitting the nmax=40
tremendously increased the computing time you needed, the second
even more (in an O(n^2) manner) than the first.
--
Edzer
I used the above modified codes from krige(gstat ) example to
see the
effect of "nsim", but unfortunately, it took a longer time and
cannot get
the results. I guess it used the simulation method to test the
model, not
what i want. (My system is XP, R2.10.0, gstat09.-64.)
Anybody can give me further information on generating the
conditional
simulations from a theoretical model just like the
unconditional examples
that Tomislav provided?
Thanks a lot.
2010/1/31 Tomislav Hengl <hengl at spatial-analyst.net
<mailto:hengl at spatial-analyst.net>>
Dear rusers.sh,
Here are few simple examples of how to simulate (not-normal)
distributions and point processes using geoR and spatstat:
http://spatial-analyst.net/book/node/388
See also:
http://leg.ufpr.br/geoR/geoRdoc/vignette/geoRintro/geoRintrose8.html#x9-120008
I guess that covariates can be also included (I guess that
you then need
to switch to conditional simulations - not sure).
This should also work for lattice (polygon) data so that
you will have
jumps in values (but I guess you would still work in
gridded systems?).
T. Hengl
http://home.medewerker.uva.nl/t.hengl/
rusers.sh wrote:
Hi all,
In classical statistics, we always need to generate a
theoretical model
such as y=a+b1*x1+b2*x2+e to study some new estimation
content. I am
wondering how to generate the similar spatial dataset
for a theoretical
model.
Say y is response variable, x1 and x2 are explanatory
variables.
1. If y is a continous variable, how should we
generate the dataset for a
theoretical spatial point process model in R?
2. If y is a continous variable, how should we
generate the dataset for a
theoretical spatial lattice data model in R?
3. If y is 0/1 binary variable, how should we generate
the dataset for a
theoretical spatial point process model in R?
4. If y is 0/1 binary variable, how should we generate
the dataset for a
ttheoretical spatial lattice data in R?
spatstat and other packages allow us to generate a
dataset of a specified
point process and other models, but it seems that they
donot allow us to
include possible explanatory variables into a
theoretical model. Maybe i
missed some ideas in them.
Anybody can express some ideas or point out some
useful resources on the
above four different situations? Small examples in R
are preferred.
Thanks a lot.
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+49 251 8339763 http://ifgi.uni-muenster.de
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-----------------
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Queen's
Edzer Pebesma Institute for Geoinformatics (ifgi), University of M?nster Weseler Stra?e 253, 48151 M?nster, Germany. Phone: +49 251 8333081, Fax: +49 251 8339763 http://ifgi.uni-muenster.de http://www.52north.org/geostatistics e.pebesma at wwu.de
Just to add that besides unconditional simulation as discussed there are some functionality for conditional simulations is some packages. Is geoR the functions krige.conv() and krige.bayes() have an option for that and in geoRglm the krige.binom(), krige.pois() or krige.glsm() also does that. Except the first in geoR, the functions implements predictions under the Bayesian paradigma relying on (conditional) simulations in their algorithms. The algorithms have an argument to "keep" the simulations on the resulting object. They are based on the approach of assuming an hierarquical spatial model with an underlying (latent) Gaussian field $S$ (even when the responses $Y$ are no Gaussian) and the conditional simulatios are for such latent field from which simulations on the scale of the response variable can be obtained if wished under the conditional independence of the responses $Y$ given $S$. Paulo Justiniano Ribeiro Jr LEG (Laboratorio de Estatistica e Geoinformacao) Universidade Federal do Parana Caixa Postal 19.081 CEP 81.531-990 Curitiba, PR - Brasil Tel: (+55) 41 3361 3573 Fax: (+55) 41 3361 3141 e-mail: paulojus AT ufpr br http://www.leg.ufpr.br/~paulojus
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Edzer Pebesma wrote:
rusers.sh, demo(ugsim) in package gstat gives an example how to generate unconditional Gaussian simulations. Specifying the covariates in a formula and the parameter vector beta will add a deterministic trend to that. If, in addition to that, you want unconditionally simulated residuals added to a trend effect that is simulated as well, look at rmvnorm in package mvtnorm how to generate realisations from the multivariate normal distribution with given mean and covariance; finally, combine the two. -- Edzer rusers.sh wrote:
It works. The problem is that it only generates the simulated data based
on our observed dataset,e.g. "meuse" here. I wonder if we can generate
the simulated dataset from the user-specified model with covariates
included, such as y~a1*x1+a2*x2+spatial effect. Y can be continuous or 0/1
variables. Something like this.
The idea is we first specify a theoretical model, and then generate the
simulated data based on this model. The coefficients and spatial effects
are fixed by users, so we may study some new methods.
Thanks.
2010/2/2 Edzer Pebesma <edzer.pebesma at uni-muenster.de
<mailto:edzer.pebesma at uni-muenster.de>>
rusers.sh wrote:
Hi Tomislav,
Thanks for your info on unconditional simulation. For conditional
simulations, i still cannot find any useful information.
I searched the R site and didnot find the possible method to do
conditional simulations.
1. CondSimu(RandomField): trend: Not programmed yet. (used by
universal
kriging)
2. grf(geoR): generates unconditional simulations of Gaussian
random fields
3. sim.Krig(fields) #Conditonal simulation of a spatial process
It seems to be based on the actual dataset,not a theoretical
model.
4. krige(gstat ):Simple, Ordinary or Universal, global or
local, Point or
Block Kriging,or simulation
x <- krige(log(zinc)~x+y, meuse, meuse.grid, model = m, block =
c(40,40),nsim=1)
rusers.sh, please use
x <- krige(log(zinc)~x+y, meuse, meuse.grid, model = m, nmax=40,
nsim=1)
both adding the block=c(40,40) as well as omitting the nmax=40
tremendously increased the computing time you needed, the second
even more (in an O(n^2) manner) than the first.
--
Edzer
I used the above modified codes from krige(gstat ) example to
see the
effect of "nsim", but unfortunately, it took a longer time and
cannot get
the results. I guess it used the simulation method to test the
model, not
what i want. (My system is XP, R2.10.0, gstat09.-64.)
Anybody can give me further information on generating the
conditional
simulations from a theoretical model just like the
unconditional examples
that Tomislav provided?
Thanks a lot.
2010/1/31 Tomislav Hengl <hengl at spatial-analyst.net
<mailto:hengl at spatial-analyst.net>>
Dear rusers.sh,
Here are few simple examples of how to simulate (not-normal)
distributions and point processes using geoR and spatstat:
http://spatial-analyst.net/book/node/388
See also:
http://leg.ufpr.br/geoR/geoRdoc/vignette/geoRintro/geoRintrose8.html#x9-120008
I guess that covariates can be also included (I guess that
you then need
to switch to conditional simulations - not sure).
This should also work for lattice (polygon) data so that
you will have
jumps in values (but I guess you would still work in
gridded systems?).
T. Hengl
http://home.medewerker.uva.nl/t.hengl/
rusers.sh wrote:
Hi all,
In classical statistics, we always need to generate a
theoretical model
such as y=a+b1*x1+b2*x2+e to study some new estimation
content. I am
wondering how to generate the similar spatial dataset
for a theoretical
model.
Say y is response variable, x1 and x2 are explanatory
variables.
1. If y is a continous variable, how should we
generate the dataset for a
theoretical spatial point process model in R?
2. If y is a continous variable, how should we
generate the dataset for a
theoretical spatial lattice data model in R?
3. If y is 0/1 binary variable, how should we generate
the dataset for a
theoretical spatial point process model in R?
4. If y is 0/1 binary variable, how should we generate
the dataset for a
ttheoretical spatial lattice data in R?
spatstat and other packages allow us to generate a
dataset of a specified
point process and other models, but it seems that they
donot allow us to
include possible explanatory variables into a
theoretical model. Maybe i
missed some ideas in them.
Anybody can express some ideas or point out some
useful resources on the
above four different situations? Small examples in R
are preferred.
Thanks a lot.
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Institute for Geoinformatics (ifgi), University of M?nster Weseler
Stra?e 253, 48151 M?nster, Germany. Phone: +49 251 8333081, Fax:
+49 251 8339763 http://ifgi.uni-muenster.de
http://www.52north.org/geostatistics e.pebesma at wwu.de
<mailto:e.pebesma at wwu.de>
--
-----------------
Jane Chang
Queen's
-- Edzer Pebesma Institute for Geoinformatics (ifgi), University of M?nster Weseler Stra?e 253, 48151 M?nster, Germany. Phone: +49 251 8333081, Fax: +49 251 8339763 http://ifgi.uni-muenster.de http://www.52north.org/geostatistics e.pebesma at wwu.de
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It is dificult if not irrealistic to set Y to be 0/1 (ou interger counts or similar) in such model since this would impose severe contraints in the a's and x's as well as in the model structure. This is why the hierarquical model structure is one possible working around. The ideia is the same as in generalised linear models relating the covariates (x's) and spatial effect to as function of the expected value of Y instead of directly with Y. In a "loose" notation: Y_i ~ "some distribution" with E[Y_i] = \mu_i g(\mu_i) = a1*x1+a2*x2+spatial effect where g() is a "convenient" function mapping (-Inf, +Inf) to the parameter space of \mu_i Some examples: 1. For binay (0/1) observations a possible model would be Y_i ~ B(p_i) log(p_i/(1-p_i) = a1*x1+a2*x2+spatial effect 2. For count data: Y_i ~ B(\lambda_i) log(\lambda_i) = a1*x1+a2*x2+spatial effect 3. For Gaussian data Y_i ~ N(\mu_i, \tau^2) \mu_i = a1*x1+a2*x2+spatial effect which in this particular case can be written as Y_i = a1*x1+a2*x2+spatial effect Paulo Justiniano Ribeiro Jr LEG (Laboratorio de Estatistica e Geoinformacao) Universidade Federal do Parana Caixa Postal 19.081 CEP 81.531-990 Curitiba, PR - Brasil Tel: (+55) 41 3361 3573 Fax: (+55) 41 3361 3141 e-mail: paulojus AT ufpr br http://www.leg.ufpr.br/~paulojus
On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, rusers.sh wrote:
It works. The problem is that it only generates the simulated data based on our observed dataset,e.g. "meuse" here. I wonder if we can generate the simulated dataset from the user-specified model with covariates included, such as y~a1*x1+a2*x2+spatial effect. Y can be continuous or 0/1 variables. Something like this. The idea is we first specify a theoretical model, and then generate the simulated data based on this model. The coefficients and spatial effects are fixed by users, so we may study some new methods. Thanks. 2010/2/2 Edzer Pebesma <edzer.pebesma at uni-muenster.de>
rusers.sh wrote:
Hi Tomislav, Thanks for your info on unconditional simulation. For conditional simulations, i still cannot find any useful information. I searched the R site and didnot find the possible method to do conditional simulations. 1. CondSimu(RandomField): trend: Not programmed yet. (used by universal kriging) 2. grf(geoR): generates unconditional simulations of Gaussian random fields 3. sim.Krig(fields) #Conditonal simulation of a spatial process It seems to be based on the actual dataset,not a theoretical model. 4. krige(gstat ):Simple, Ordinary or Universal, global or local, Point or Block Kriging,or simulation x <- krige(log(zinc)~x+y, meuse, meuse.grid, model = m, block = c(40,40),nsim=1)
rusers.sh, please use x <- krige(log(zinc)~x+y, meuse, meuse.grid, model = m, nmax=40, nsim=1) both adding the block=c(40,40) as well as omitting the nmax=40 tremendously increased the computing time you needed, the second even more (in an O(n^2) manner) than the first. -- Edzer I used the above modified codes from krige(gstat ) example to see the
effect of "nsim", but unfortunately, it took a longer time and cannot get the results. I guess it used the simulation method to test the model, not what i want. (My system is XP, R2.10.0, gstat09.-64.) Anybody can give me further information on generating the conditional simulations from a theoretical model just like the unconditional examples that Tomislav provided? Thanks a lot. 2010/1/31 Tomislav Hengl <hengl at spatial-analyst.net>
Dear rusers.sh, Here are few simple examples of how to simulate (not-normal) distributions and point processes using geoR and spatstat: http://spatial-analyst.net/book/node/388 See also: http://leg.ufpr.br/geoR/geoRdoc/vignette/geoRintro/geoRintrose8.html#x9-120008 I guess that covariates can be also included (I guess that you then need to switch to conditional simulations - not sure). This should also work for lattice (polygon) data so that you will have jumps in values (but I guess you would still work in gridded systems?). T. Hengl http://home.medewerker.uva.nl/t.hengl/ rusers.sh wrote:
Hi all, In classical statistics, we always need to generate a theoretical model such as y=a+b1*x1+b2*x2+e to study some new estimation content. I am wondering how to generate the similar spatial dataset for a theoretical model. Say y is response variable, x1 and x2 are explanatory variables. 1. If y is a continous variable, how should we generate the dataset for a theoretical spatial point process model in R? 2. If y is a continous variable, how should we generate the dataset for a theoretical spatial lattice data model in R? 3. If y is 0/1 binary variable, how should we generate the dataset for a theoretical spatial point process model in R? 4. If y is 0/1 binary variable, how should we generate the dataset for a ttheoretical spatial lattice data in R? spatstat and other packages allow us to generate a dataset of a specified point process and other models, but it seems that they donot allow us to include possible explanatory variables into a theoretical model. Maybe i missed some ideas in them. Anybody can express some ideas or point out some useful resources on the above four different situations? Small examples in R are preferred. Thanks a lot.
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rusers.sh, You can simulate stationary and isotropic Gaussian random fields ( and transformation of it) as well as max-stable random fields by using the RandomFields package. To get a conditional simulation of the correlated residuals of a linear model you can first simulate an unconditional realization (\mu = 0 and a given covariance structure), then choose the data location and make a simple kriging prediction of this realization. Now, take the difference between the unconditional simulation and the simple kriging prediction and you get one realization of a simulated conditional error term. Now, if you add this term to a kriging estimation you get one conditional simulation. You find a detail descripitoin of this procedure called "Conditioning by kriging" in the book Geostatistics: Modeling Spatial Uncertainty ( 1999) of Chil?s, J.-P. and Delfiner, P Sorry, for my bad english (I'm working on it). Christoph Am 03.02.2010 um 17:18 schrieb rusers.sh:
For the method to generate the theoretical models, i agree with you
completely. For binay (0/1) observations, it will be better to do as
follows.
Y_i ~ B(p_i)
log(p_i/(1-p_i) = a1*x1+a2*x2+spatial effect
Take the above model as an example. Unfortunately, i still cannot figure
out how to generate the conditional and unconditional spatial effects.
#generate two covariates, x1 and x2
library(mvtnorm)
x1x2<-rmvnorm(100,mean=c(2,4),method="svd")
colnames(x1x2)<-c("x1","x2")
#Then, how to generate the conditional and unconditional spatial effects
into the above model,respectively.
I think my mode of thinking on generating the spatial model in R must be
at a dead end and needs guiding.
I appreciate your help very much.
2010/2/3 Paulo Justiniano Ribeiro Jr <paulojus at c3sl.ufpr.br>
It is dificult if not irrealistic to set Y to be 0/1 (ou interger counts or similar) in such model since this would impose severe contraints in the a's and x's as well as in the model structure. This is why the hierarquical model structure is one possible working around. The ideia is the same as in generalised linear models relating the covariates (x's) and spatial effect to as function of the expected value of Y instead of directly with Y. In a "loose" notation: Y_i ~ "some distribution" with E[Y_i] = \mu_i g(\mu_i) = a1*x1+a2*x2+spatial effect where g() is a "convenient" function mapping (-Inf, +Inf) to the parameter space of \mu_i Some examples: 1. For binay (0/1) observations a possible model would be Y_i ~ B(p_i) log(p_i/(1-p_i) = a1*x1+a2*x2+spatial effect 2. For count data: Y_i ~ B(\lambda_i) log(\lambda_i) = a1*x1+a2*x2+spatial effect 3. For Gaussian data Y_i ~ N(\mu_i, \tau^2) \mu_i = a1*x1+a2*x2+spatial effect which in this particular case can be written as Y_i = a1*x1+a2*x2+spatial effect Paulo Justiniano Ribeiro Jr LEG (Laboratorio de Estatistica e Geoinformacao) Universidade Federal do Parana Caixa Postal 19.081 CEP 81.531-990 Curitiba, PR - Brasil Tel: (+55) 41 3361 3573 Fax: (+55) 41 3361 3141 e-mail: paulojus AT ufpr br http://www.leg.ufpr.br/~paulojus On Tue, 2 Feb 2010, rusers.sh wrote: It works. The problem is that it only generates the simulated data based
on our observed dataset,e.g. "meuse" here. I wonder if we can generate the simulated dataset from the user-specified model with covariates included, such as y~a1*x1+a2*x2+spatial effect. Y can be continuous or 0/1 variables. Something like this. The idea is we first specify a theoretical model, and then generate the simulated data based on this model. The coefficients and spatial effects are fixed by users, so we may study some new methods. Thanks. 2010/2/2 Edzer Pebesma <edzer.pebesma at uni-muenster.de>
rusers.sh wrote: Hi Tomislav,
Thanks for your info on unconditional simulation. For conditional simulations, i still cannot find any useful information. I searched the R site and didnot find the possible method to do conditional simulations. 1. CondSimu(RandomField): trend: Not programmed yet. (used by universal kriging) 2. grf(geoR): generates unconditional simulations of Gaussian random fields 3. sim.Krig(fields) #Conditonal simulation of a spatial process It seems to be based on the actual dataset,not a theoretical model. 4. krige(gstat ):Simple, Ordinary or Universal, global or local, Point or Block Kriging,or simulation x <- krige(log(zinc)~x+y, meuse, meuse.grid, model = m, block = c(40,40),nsim=1) rusers.sh, please use
x <- krige(log(zinc)~x+y, meuse, meuse.grid, model = m, nmax=40, nsim=1) both adding the block=c(40,40) as well as omitting the nmax=40 tremendously increased the computing time you needed, the second even more (in an O(n^2) manner) than the first. -- Edzer I used the above modified codes from krige(gstat ) example to see the
effect of "nsim", but unfortunately, it took a longer time and cannot get the results. I guess it used the simulation method to test the model, not what i want. (My system is XP, R2.10.0, gstat09.-64.) Anybody can give me further information on generating the conditional simulations from a theoretical model just like the unconditional examples that Tomislav provided? Thanks a lot. 2010/1/31 Tomislav Hengl <hengl at spatial-analyst.net> Dear rusers.sh,
Here are few simple examples of how to simulate (not-normal) distributions and point processes using geoR and spatstat: http://spatial-analyst.net/book/node/388 See also: http://leg.ufpr.br/geoR/geoRdoc/vignette/geoRintro/geoRintrose8.html#x9-120008 I guess that covariates can be also included (I guess that you then need to switch to conditional simulations - not sure). This should also work for lattice (polygon) data so that you will have jumps in values (but I guess you would still work in gridded systems?). T. Hengl http://home.medewerker.uva.nl/t.hengl/ rusers.sh wrote: Hi all,
In classical statistics, we always need to generate a theoretical model such as y=a+b1*x1+b2*x2+e to study some new estimation content. I am wondering how to generate the similar spatial dataset for a theoretical model. Say y is response variable, x1 and x2 are explanatory variables. 1. If y is a continous variable, how should we generate the dataset for a theoretical spatial point process model in R? 2. If y is a continous variable, how should we generate the dataset for a theoretical spatial lattice data model in R? 3. If y is 0/1 binary variable, how should we generate the dataset for a theoretical spatial point process model in R? 4. If y is 0/1 binary variable, how should we generate the dataset for a ttheoretical spatial lattice data in R? spatstat and other packages allow us to generate a dataset of a specified point process and other models, but it seems that they donot allow us to include possible explanatory variables into a theoretical model. Maybe i missed some ideas in them. Anybody can express some ideas or point out some useful resources on the above four different situations? Small examples in R are preferred. Thanks a lot.
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