Hi List, I have observations of insect counts and environmental variables. My first goal was to compute a GLM to explain the insect counts with the environment. The thing is that my insect counts are not spatially independant and show spatial autocorrelation (a spherical variogram model can be fit to the data). So I intend to compute the same GLM model and taking into account the spatial autocorrelation. The final objective would be to compare both model (spatial and non spatial and check which one is the best). I read that a way to do a spatial GLM is using the glmmPQL function of MASS and putting all the observations in the same group for the random effect (Dorman, Ecography 30, 2007). I was wondering if the "non computed" Log-Likelihood value (but it can be computed by changing a line code in the glmmPQL code function) is correct. I did some trials to compare the model outputs for the same dataset for glm and glmmPQL (with all the observations in the same group) and it gave me the same estimated parameters. It also gave me the same Log-Likelihood for both methods. Do you have any idea if the Log-Likelihood from glmmPQL is correct when one considers all the data in the same group for the random effect? Is there any other methods to do what I want (comparison of spatial and non-spatial GLM)? Thanks for your help. Anne ________ Information from NOD32 ________ This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System for Linux Mail Servers. http://www.eset.com
spatial GLM using glmmPQL
3 messages · Anne GOARANT, Roger Bivand, Andrew Niccolai
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Anne GOARANT wrote:
Hi List, I have observations of insect counts and environmental variables. My first goal was to compute a GLM to explain the insect counts with the environment. The thing is that my insect counts are not spatially independant and show spatial autocorrelation (a spherical variogram model can be fit to the data). So I intend to compute the same GLM model and taking into account the spatial autocorrelation. The final objective would be to compare both model (spatial and non spatial and check which one is the best). I read that a way to do a spatial GLM is using the glmmPQL function of MASS and putting all the observations in the same group for the random effect (Dorman, Ecography 30, 2007). I was wondering if the "non computed" Log-Likelihood value (but it can be computed by changing a line code in the glmmPQL code function) is correct. I did some trials to compare the model outputs for the same dataset for glm and glmmPQL (with all the observations in the same group) and it gave me the same estimated parameters. It also gave me the same Log-Likelihood for both methods. Do you have any idea if the Log-Likelihood from glmmPQL is correct when one considers all the data in the same group for the random effect? Is there any other methods to do what I want (comparison of spatial and non-spatial GLM)?
When this came up recently on R-help, Douglas Bates, whose views deserve respect, commented that using a single group was not advisable: https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2008-March/157672.html Using one group for each observation may be another alternative. The choice in the Dormann et al. paper was motivated by a desire to get the same results as SAS GLIMMIX, not by any considered judgement - the authors in fact call their "hack" an "abuse" of the method (see the electronic supplement). Hope this helps, Roger
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Greetings list. Below is some code that anyone can run to produce a distance transform image of the R logo. I am interested in some code that will skeletonize this distmap image or the equivalent SpatialGridDataFrame object. Essentially I need to find the ridgeline of the distance transform that would in theory trace the R logo image at all locations that are the maximum distance from the boundaries. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have also read of a way to skeletonize a set of discrete boundary points using Voronoi tessellation and then thinning the lines but I think the medial axis transform of the distance map will be easier to handle. Thanks again for any and all help! ## Code to produce distance transform image (and SGDF) of R logo. .spatstat_check <- FALSE # this is the trick used to pass FALSE to check= w2 <- letterR plot(w2) m <- complement.owin(w2) rm(.spatstat_check) p1 <- as.psp(w2) plot(p1) d <- distmap(p1) summary(d) plot(d) plot(w2, add=TRUE) d[m] <- NA summary(d) plot(d) ## Convert to SpatialGridDataFrame if this helps dsgdf <- as.SpatialGridDataFrame.im(d) image(dsgdf) Andrew Niccolai Doctoral Candidate Yale School of Forestry